Okay, I have encountered a puzzle here and I need some advice... This one involves the mail that's presently coming and going from my server and the software that is processing it and trying to sort out what is REALLY going on here. From the beginning my server has allowed me to send mail. At first, that surprised me because I hadn't selected and installed an MTA yet. Even then, I assumed it wasn't receiving mail because I'd done nothing to make that happen yet. In fact, even the sendmail part of the equation puzzled me because I didn't know how that was happening... Eventually, I ran across a reference somewhere that said exim4 was "the base email" MTA and that it was installed on Debian by default. Frankly, I was at that point convinced I wanted (and needed) to install and use sendmail. That's what my old dedicated server used. Later, I realized sendmail ALSO seems to have been installed when the server was originally built as well; but from what I can tell, it is not being (and has not been) used on this server at all. In the end, after much study and research, I decided postfix (with TLS and smtp auth) was my best bet for most capability, strongest security, best performance, easiest setup and least complexity in my base MTA. I'm not entirely sure even now what TLS is but I was convinced I needed it the same way a new car owner knows they need ATF, antifreeze and brake fluid and gasoline without knowing exactly why. My intent was to install those tools first using a tutorial I found here on HowToForge and then once they were installed and running, I'd add both Spamcop and SpamAssassin to the mix to tighten security and define what was acceptable in both my inbound and outbound mail streams. That was my plan... exorcise Exim4 and install Postfix in its place along with TLS and smtp Auth. But you KNOW what they say about the best-laid plans of mice and men... I tried this last Thursday with mixed results. I carefully followed the HowToForge tutorial step-by-step-by-step-by-step-by-step (www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch_p5). BUT when I got to the end and it said type: Code: ehlo localhost and Code: If you see the lines 250-STARTTLS and 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN everything is fine. What I actually got was this: # telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 myhost.com ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU) ehlo localhost 250-myhost.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 10240000 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS <<-- Hey, here's ONE of those two 'expected' lines... 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN <<-- And here's the OTHER one! Did it work? DID IT ACTUALLY FREAKIN' WORK?? 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250 DSN bye 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. Frankly seeing all those lines displayed when I had assumed I'd see only 2 lines was pretty discouraging. At that point, I figured all was lost and had no idea what to do next. Sadly, the tutorial authors offered NO help whatsoever if the user did NOT see what was expected. But looking back now, I wonder if it didn't work flawlessly and the problem was I had been mis-lead to believe I'd see only 2 lines of response when in fact there were 11 lines? Since then, I've realized exim4 IS gone (e.g. the exorcism DID work) and postfix, tls and smpt auth (or some form of it) do seem to be running in its place (see below); but I'm not at all sure how to test it or how to figure out what (if anything) went wrong last week; or how to fix that if I DO find something wrong. As it stands now, I did test and found that I am able to both send and receive email to and from the test domains I have moved to the server. So, I now know the basic sending and receiving of email do work; but I'm unclear as to how to test to see whether TLS is working or how to tell if SMTP Auth is working or not. And of course, I have no way of knowing whether I'm receiving all email for the accounts involved or only part of it. Here's what I DO know about the tasks that are presently running Code: myserver:~# ps aux | grep postfix root 2630 0.0 0.0 19616 2052 ? Ss Aug25 0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master postfix 2637 0.0 0.0 20688 2132 ? S Aug25 0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u root 2649 0.0 0.0 30312 1156 ? Ss Aug25 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 root 2651 0.0 0.0 30312 672 ? S Aug25 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 root 2652 0.0 0.0 30312 484 ? S Aug25 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 root 2653 0.0 0.0 30312 484 ? S Aug25 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 root 2654 0.0 0.0 30312 484 ? S Aug25 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 postfix 2814 0.0 0.0 21732 2456 ? S Aug25 0:00 tlsmgr -l -t unix -u -c postfix 20411 0.0 0.0 20652 1988 ? S 11:54 0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c postfix 20430 0.0 0.0 20652 2012 ? S 12:15 0:00 anvil -l -t unix -u -c postfix 20438 0.0 0.0 34724 3612 ? S 12:19 0:00 smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -c -s 2 postfix 20439 0.0 0.0 20652 2008 ? S 12:19 0:00 proxymap -t unix -u postfix 20440 0.0 0.0 20664 2032 ? S 12:19 0:00 trivial-rewrite -n rewrite -t unix -u -c postfix 20441 0.0 0.0 20728 2128 ? S 12:19 0:00 cleanup -z -t unix -u -c postfix 20442 0.0 0.0 20692 2420 ? S 12:19 0:00 local -t unix Does anyone have any suggestions or helpful hints here? In short, H - E - L - P ! ! ! How the HECK do I get this email installation and setup process back on track? Thanks!