Migrate a site/email/db from server A to B

Discussion in 'Installation/Configuration' started by saphirblanc, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. saphirblanc

    saphirblanc New Member

    Hello,

    Do you know if there is a script I could use to migrate data from a server to another for a specific website, db and mails ?

    We currently have a multi-servers environment and sometimes we need to move some clients as they take a lot of space.
    Otherwise, we'll build one ourselves.

    Thank you very much,
    Yann
     
  2. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    There is no script available to move sites and databases within a multiserver environment, but I'm working on one as part of the Migration Toolkit.
     
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  3. saphirblanc

    saphirblanc New Member

    Thanks for your answer! Do you have any timeframe ? That would be awesome!
     
  4. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    It is the next big feature that we are adding, but I don't have a release timeframe yet. I hope to finish it in autumn 2018.
     
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  5. nhybgtvfr

    nhybgtvfr Member

    it's nice that a script is being created for this, but I don't think it should just be part of the migration toolkit, it should be an integral feature of ispconfig itself.
    not trying to migrate a site/db/email to another ispconfig system, but to another ispconfig member on the same system, on a multi-webserver system can be a fairly common/regular occurrence.
    it should ideally be as easy as (eg for a website) going into the website tab, selecting the website and changing the server in the drop down list (which is currently greyed out if a site already exists) and then the site (and associated ssh user/ftp user/ db (if not on dedicated server) are transferred to the newly selected server.
    much easier than editing the server id, resyncing the new server, manually copy over files/db/mail, resync the old server

    also ideally, the script shouldn't require any resyncs at all. since we can't limit the resync to specific users/sites etc. for servers with a lot of sites on it can take a long time to resync, and causes a lot of disruption with apache restarts every minute during the resync.
     
  6. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    Implementing, testing and maintaining this is quite a lot of work, the complexity comes from the many kind of errors that can occur when you move a site between servers and from implementing this in a secure fashion. I guess that someone who is able to afford the rent (or price to buy servers + electricity + network bandwidth) for multiple servers is also able to afford the migration tool price as well to support our work on ISPConfig. If I would add that as an integral part in ispconfig, then I would either have to spin off a non-free 'pro' version of ISPConfig like many OpenSource projects do it (and which I tried to avoid) which contains this feature or we need a sponsor company which pays the development and maintenance of this feature for the community.
     
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  7. nhybgtvfr

    nhybgtvfr Member

    fair enough.
    I know it's a lot of work. i'm not a programmer, I can generally work out most of what the codes doing when reading through the files. but I usually have no idea where to start when attempting to write code. I can change what already exists a bit, or write simple single file scripts, but that's about it.

    I just feel it's something that's not really migration between systems, and would be commonly used enough on multi-server systems that it should be in the control panel itself. that said, everyone has their own idea on required features, and if we all got our way, you'd have a never ending list of requirements to add. :eek:

    I try to support as I can, I have the manual, the migration toolkit (probably a very out-of-date version by now) and license ispprotect.

    you don't want an official paid for pro version, I can understand that, just one single codebase to manage. maybe an option is an extension pack of useful scripts/features that extend the control panel itself that can be sold separately. although that would still mean even more variation in what's out there, which would make your life even harder keeping everything maintained and working.
    this is one of the reasons i'm glad i'm not a programmer. ;)
     
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