That fixed that, thanks. I finally got it to send me an e-mail "Your new mailing list: mailman". However in the basic information about my mailing list under "The web page for users of your mailing list is:" https://lists.physics.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailman I'm getting the SSL error: Secure Connection Failed ... SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum possible length. (Error code ssl_error_rx_record_too_long) It works as http: Since mailman made this how do I correct it's SSL certificate or how do i get the e-mail response to only show http: instead of https:? I'd rather just fix the SSL certificate but will settle for the latter. Thanks!