Mailman 2.1 vs Mailman 3

Discussion in 'General' started by concept21, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. concept21

    concept21 Member HowtoForge Supporter

  2. Jesse Norell

    Jesse Norell ISPConfig Developer Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    I don't speak for the project, but I'd be pretty confident in answering no, not in the "near" future. Things can always change (especially if you/someone wanted to contribute or fund the development), but I sure don't recall anyone mentioning that on their agenda, nor has there been much call for it in forums or the bug tracker (where I don't see a feature request for that - feel free to add one).
     
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  3. ahrasis

    ahrasis Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I think ISPConfig normally prefer stable softwares shipped with the OS Distro for server stability rather than latest bleeding edge softwares as it always simply use apt-get install without adding any other repo for mailman, mariadb, nginx, apache2 etc.
     
  4. Taleman

    Taleman Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Ubuntu 20.04 has mailman3 version 3.2.2 avalable in the usual repository.
    I gave up on using mailing lists after much problems with Mailman 2 and ISPConfig. Does Mailman3 support virtual users now? I understood that was the key point why ISPConfig and Mailman2 did not work together.
     
  5. concept21

    concept21 Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Yes, Mailman v3 is on the stable repo of Ubuntu 20.04 :D
     
  6. ahrasis

    ahrasis Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Then one running ISPConfig mail server on Ubuntu 20.04 should test mailman 3 as I read that it is capable of virtual users.
     
  7. concept21

    concept21 Member HowtoForge Supporter

    If you give me the whole procedure, I can test it on my new set up. I can reinstall it if it fails. :rolleyes:
     
  8. ahrasis

    ahrasis Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I am not very good with ISPConfig mail server system as I am merely running one on Ubuntu 20.04 using a relay.

    I think ISPConfig developers can guide you with this test if you are prepared to do so.
     
  9. ahrasis

    ahrasis Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I did some more reading out of curiosity for mailman3 and I find that the guide in the following link is quite good: https://gist.github.com/plepe/dab22fdbfec63d8632709065890124a3

    I tested it out in my nginx server and it seems working, partially. Definitely this version is not supported yet by ISPConfig3.2 but may be in the future.

    Edited: If you got mailman3 time out error (Start operation timed out. Terminating.) try adding some time to it by running this solution:
    Code:
    mkdir -p /etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service.d
    echo -e "[Service]\nTimeoutStartSec=180" | sudo tee /etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service.d/startup-timeout.conf
    
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2021

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