Hotmail spam/SPF record

Discussion in 'Installation/Configuration' started by jake, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. jake

    jake New Member

    Hello!

    My server is now up and running for quite some time and everything (including mail) works excellent. There's is just this one issue with hotmail marking my mail as spam. Al mail coming from my server is marked by hotmail as spam.

    -The domains are not blacklisted
    -I set up SPF records (see below)
    -The name of my host is forward and reversed linked to my ip.
    -I can send and recieve email without any other problems

    The setup of my (VDS) server is as following:

    -VDS server (84.244.15.118, broomhilda.hyperactief.com) running ISPconfig
    |-hosted domain: bernaards.net
    |-mail server (postfix)

    My server is hosted with Lycos and i use their nameserver to control my DNS and zone files.
    The entries for the domain: bernaards.net:

    Code:
     A 84.244.15.118
    MX mail.bernaards.net. 10
    NS nshost1.st2.lyceu.net.
    NS nshost2.st2.lyceu.net.
    NS nshost3.st2.lyceu.net.
    TXT v=spf1 a mx ~all
    * CNAME www
    ftp A 84.244.15.118
    localhost A 127.0.0.1
    mail A 84.244.15.118
    www A 84.244.15.118 
    The zone file for hyperactief.com (and then mainly for broomhilda.hyperactief.com)
    Code:
    A 212.78.206.150  10:00
    MX maildefer.hyperactief.com. 40
    MX mailspool.hyperactief.com. 20
    NS nshost1.st2.lyceu.net.
    NS nshost2.st2.lyceu.net.
    NS nshost3.st2.lyceu.net.
    TXT v=spf1 a mx ~all
    * CNAME www
    blog A 84.244.15.118
    broomhilda A 84.244.15.118
    broomhilda MX broomhilda.hyperactief.com. 10
    broomhilda TXT v=spf1 a mx ~all
    ftp A 212.78.206.140
    imap A 212.78.206.51
    imap3 CNAME imap
    localhost A 127.0.0.1
    maildefer A 212.78.206.55
    mailspool A 212.78.206.45
    pop A 212.78.206.51
    pop3 CNAME pop
    smtp A 212.78.206.48
    www A 212.78.206.150 
    And an extracted email from gmail, don't know howto look at the headers from hotmail tough)
    Code:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
    X-Gmail-Received: 87650240b54754543d8c0459231fe5e892dedfe9
    Delivered-To: k.meesters@gmail.com
    Received: by 10.64.3.13 with SMTP id 13cs554607qbc;
            Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr4473986ugl;
            Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
    Return-Path: <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    Received: from broomhilda.hyperactief.com (broomhilda.hyperactief.com [84.244.15.118])
            by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x26si173029ugc.2006.10.27.00.51.15;
            Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
    Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of webmaster@bernaards.net designates 84.244.15.118 as permitted sender)
    Received: from UebiMiau (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    	by broomhilda.hyperactief.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 23EFA598471
    	for <k.meesters@gmail.com>; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:51:14 +0200 (CEST)
    Received: from client 165.146.224.170 for UebiMiau2.7 (webmail client); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 9:51:13 +0100
    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 9:51:13 +0100
    From: "K Meesters" <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    To: k.meesters@gmail.com
    Reply-To: "K Meesters" <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    Subject: test 09:56
    X-Priority: 3
    X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2
    X-Original-IP: 165.146.224.170
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    X-MSMail-Priority: Medium
    Importance: Medium
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1";
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Message-Id: <20061027075114.23EFA598471@broomhilda.hyperactief.com>
    
    test
    --
    Webmaster www.bernaards.net
    Danscentrum Bernaards
    
    
    I hope someone can help! Thanks guys!
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2006
  2. jake

    jake New Member

    I found also the hotmail headers:
    Code:
    X-Message-Status: n:0
    X-SID-PRA: K Meesters <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    X-SID-Result: TempError
    X-Message-Info: txF49lGdW41VEeSdVuFmkQa3J5DgIsXmhl9nNLQ5Bso=
    Received: from broomhilda.hyperactief.com ([84.244.15.118]) by bay0-mc8-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444);
    	 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:18:19 -0700
    Received: from UebiMiau (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    	by broomhilda.hyperactief.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 92FBA244D2A3
    	for <kjmgmeesters@hotmail.com>; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:18 +0200 (CEST)
    Received: from client 165.146.224.170 for UebiMiau2.7 (webmail client); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:17 +0100
    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:18:17 +0100
    From: "K Meesters" <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    To: kjmgmeesters@hotmail.com
    Reply-To: "K Meesters" <webmaster@bernaards.net>
    Subject: Hallo kenny!
    X-Priority: 3
    X-Mailer: UebiMiau 2.7.2
    X-Original-IP: 165.146.224.170
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    X-MSMail-Priority: Medium
    Importance: Medium
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1";
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Message-Id: <20061027091818.92FBA244D2A3@broomhilda.hyperactief.com>
    Return-Path: webmaster@bernaards.net
    X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 09:18:20.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8033A70:01C6F9A8]
    
    11:23
    --
    Webmaster www.bernaards.net
    Danscentrum Bernaards
     
  3. edge

    edge Active Member Moderator

    Are you talking about the bulk mailfolder from hotmail?

    If so... The only way of getting this to work all the time is to email the webmaster(s) from hotmail, and ask them to "okay" your domain!
    All domains are normaly going into the "bulk" folder, until Hotmail "okays" the domain! (X-SID-Result: TempError is the problem)

    Your SPF record does look ok.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2006
  4. jake

    jake New Member

    Thanks for your support!

    I found out ms uses chaced DNS. So i asked them via email to update their cache for all my domains. After one hour i recieved an response that their were going to update and my domain should be functional within the senderID program within two days!

    Thank you!
     

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