I have a site called troop4051.org and it is at 188.8.131.52. I ran through the perfect Debian setup, and i believe i screwed up with the email again (yes, i've been down this road before, and didn't fix it) So, here's what i get when i try to login with outlook express using the ip address as the server. Code: There was a problem logging onto your mail server. Your User Name was rejected. Account: 'mail.troop4051.org', Server: '184.108.40.206', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR Unknown AUTHORIZATION state command', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC91 When i change the server name to "mail.troop4051.org" i get this message... Code: The host 'mail.troop4051.org' could not be found. Please verify that you have entered the server name correctly. Account: 'mail.troop4051.org', Server: 'mail.troop4051.org', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 11004, Error Number: 0x800CCC0D I assume that the second one means that my server does not know that it is mail.troop4051.org, and I really don't know how would i change that. I'll have to check with zoneedit to see if i have that all pointing the right places. i have "deselected" the maildir check in ispconfig, but i'm still stuck. There must be something i'm overlooking. Any idea where i should start looking. Here's what's in netstat -tap gives me. Code: Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp 0 0 *:imaps *:* LISTEN 1868/inetd tcp 0 0 *:pop3s *:* LISTEN 1868/inetd tcp 0 0 localhost.localdo:mysql *:* LISTEN 1921/mysqld tcp 0 0 *:pop3 *:* LISTEN 1868/inetd tcp 0 0 *:imap2 *:* LISTEN 1868/inetd tcp 0 0 *:81 *:* LISTEN 2109/ispconfig_http tcp 0 0 *:ftp *:* LISTEN 2279/proftpd: (acce tcp 0 0 www.troop4051.or:domain *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp 0 0 www.spiritedcomp:domain *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp 0 0 serv1.arwenspets:domain *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp 0 0 localhost.locald:domain *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 25011/master tcp 0 0 localhost.localdoma:953 *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp6 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN 2140/apache2 tcp6 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN 2074/sshd tcp6 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 25011/master tcp6 0 0 ip6-localhost:953 *:* LISTEN 2266/named tcp6 0 0 *:https *:* LISTEN 2140/apache2 tcp6 0 0 24-182-139-77.stati:ssh 24-182-139-74.sta:33132 ESTABLISHED25745/0 I downloaded the webmail program, but i have done nothing to configure it. Should i do something to configure that before it's usable? Right now it won't let me log in at all. sorry, now i'm confusing myself OK, so to clarify, I don't know if mail works at all, because i can't log in using outlook express or the webmail program. The webmail program just says i can't log in using the names and passwords provided. I have tried variations on the names (boo, email@example.com, web3_boo, web3_boo@troop4051) and none seem to work. Does anyone know a thread or something i could read like "the elementary guide to setting up email in ispconfig". Any help would be appreciated, and sorry about all the questions at once.