Using cloudflare so 8080 is not supported via https. only others like 8443 https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200169156-Which-ports-will-CloudFlare-work-with- changed in config then ran update again just to be sure.. now Panel is not loading - even regenerated the SSL just in case inside the firewall local to server unable to load https://IP:8443 reloaded apache but is it actually an nginx? doesn't look like it: /etc/apache2/sites-available/ispconfig.vhost considering just doing a NAT Translation at the firewall to convert 8443 > 8080. ------- Change vhosts back to 8080 works - just checking why 8443 acts like its already in use?!? --- Side bar --- is there a way / script / addon that will proxy admin/panel url to the correct port from an http request? another panel i'm using does this via a proxy - type http://panel.host.com and it redirects via proxy to correct path and port - while still showing only https://panel.host.com just a thought - but I have no idea how they did that - know its a plugin though.