Ok, I have tried with both the test.php and my own scripts to create a client, web, user, have succeeded time and again, but when i put in the number of databases it always comes out 0 for the client, and 1 for the admin. I have tried this in versions 2.2.21 and dev 2.3.3, I am going to attempt it on 19 tonight when i have time to set up a test server. I believe it was working properly before. Can anyone shed any light on this? is there a solution before I rip apart the remote framework and spend alot of time on something that is probably already addressed?