What I meant but wrote in a rush and did not get across was that I think there was something in /usr/bin that when I removed apache ie apt-get remove apache and just had apache2 install missing.
So when I did changes in the web for ispconfig it did not update the file vhost until I reinstalled apache.
But I will look into it more after since it is working OKAY now except that it adds
to the top of the file which I need to pound out to make apache2 start?
I will focus more on this shortly, I have two other projects in the way and all is working (though not perfect) for now.