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Old 22nd November 2013, 16:17
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Default Unable to send/recieve emails on fresh installation

Oke, i guess i need a bit of help.

Last days i have been bussy to reinstall my vps server. Instead of debian i've decided to use ubuntu for the first time. I've been reinstalling the system 3 times now, following each step of the ubuntu 12.4 tls perfect server guide.

Everything works fine, but there is no way i`m able to send/recieve emails, not to myself or anyone else.

When running netstat -ntap

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tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:993 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:995 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:9000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1973/php-fpm.conf)
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:10024 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1460/amavisd (maste
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:10025 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3278/master
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1145/mysqld
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:110 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:143 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2189/apache2
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2189/apache2
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8081 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2189/apache2
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2126/pure-ftpd (SER
tcp 0 0 195.190.146.96:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 195.190.146.95:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 195.190.146.94:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 195.190.146.93:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1011/sshd
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3278/master
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:953 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2189/apache2
tcp 0 464 195.190.146.93:22 143.176.53.243:63942 ESTABLISHED 2676/sshd: hermes [
tcp6 0 0 :::993 :::* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp6 0 0 :::995 :::* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp6 0 0 :::110 :::* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp6 0 0 :::143 :::* LISTEN 1125/dovecot
tcp6 0 0 :::21 :::* LISTEN 2126/pure-ftpd (SER
tcp6 0 0 :::53 :::* LISTEN 1158/named
tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 1011/sshd
tcp6 0 0 :::25 :::* LISTEN 3278/master
tcp6 0 0 ::1:953 :::* LISTEN 1158/named
I don't see postfix in this list, tough postfix doesn't show any errors when restarting.

I hope someone is able to help me to solve it.

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Old 22nd November 2013, 16:22
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Inputs of mail.log

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Nov 22 14:55:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: warning: database /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db is older than source file /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
Nov 22 14:55:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: connect from mail-ob0-f179.google.com[209.85.214.179]
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2568]: warning: database /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db is older than source file /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2568]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2568]: SSL_accept error from localhost[127.0.0.1]: lost connection
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2568]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2568]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 14:55:02 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 14:55:17 ubuntu dovecot: auth-worker: mysql(localhost): Connected to database dbispconfig
Nov 22 14:55:17 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2595, secured
Nov 22 14:55:17 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:20 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2597, secured
Nov 22 14:55:20 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:34 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2599, secured
Nov 22 14:55:34 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:35 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2601, secured
Nov 22 14:55:35 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:35 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2603, secured
Nov 22 14:55:35 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2605, secured
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2607, secured
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2609, secured
Nov 22 14:55:36 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2611, secured
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2613, secured
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2615, secured
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2617, secured
Nov 22 14:55:37 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2619, secured
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2621, secured
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2623, secured
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2625, secured
Nov 22 14:55:38 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2627, secured
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2629, secured
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2631, secured
Nov 22 14:55:39 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:56:10 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2639, secured
Nov 22 14:56:10 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:56:11 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2641, secured
Nov 22 14:56:11 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=114/1401
Nov 22 14:56:13 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2643, secured
Nov 22 14:56:13 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=120/1401
Nov 22 14:56:14 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2645, secured
Nov 22 14:56:14 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=117/1401
Nov 22 14:56:15 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2647, secured
Nov 22 14:56:15 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/2003
Nov 22 14:56:22 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2649, secured
Nov 22 14:56:22 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=143/2308
Nov 22 14:56:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: warning: database /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db is older than source file /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
Nov 22 14:56:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:57:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: SSL_accept error from localhost[127.0.0.1]: -1
Nov 22 14:57:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: warning: TLS library problem: 2650:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_srvr.c:628:
Nov 22 14:57:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:57:46 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:58:00 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2650]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 14:58:46 ubuntu dovecot: auth-worker: mysql(localhost): Connected to database dbispconfig
Nov 22 14:58:46 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=2669, secured
Nov 22 14:58:46 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=79/687
Nov 22 15:00:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: SSL_accept error from mail-ob0-f179.google.com[209.85.214.179]: Connection timed out
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: lost connection after CONNECT from mail-ob0-f179.google.com[209.85.214.179]
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: disconnect from mail-ob0-f179.google.com[209.85.214.179]
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: SSL_accept error from localhost[127.0.0.1]: lost connection
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 15:00:02 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 15:00:51 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[2552]: connect from mail-oa0-f46.google.com[209.85.219.46]
Nov 22 15:01:10 ubuntu postfix/master[2104]: terminating on signal 15
Nov 22 15:01:11 ubuntu postfix/master[3138]: daemon started -- version 2.9.6, configuration /etc/postfix
Nov 22 15:01:48 ubuntu postfix/master[3138]: terminating on signal 15
Nov 22 15:01:49 ubuntu postfix/master[3278]: daemon started -- version 2.9.6, configuration /etc/postfix
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3331]: warning: database /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db is older than source file /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3331]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3331]: SSL_accept error from localhost[127.0.0.1]: lost connection
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3331]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:05:01 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3331]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Nov 22 15:05:02 ubuntu dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Nov 22 15:08:46 ubuntu dovecot: auth-worker: mysql(localhost): Connected to database dbispconfig
Nov 22 15:08:46 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=3382, secured
Nov 22 15:08:46 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=79/687
Nov 22 15:08:49 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=3384, secured
Nov 22 15:08:49 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=292/1915
Nov 22 15:08:55 ubuntu dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, mpid=3386, secured
Nov 22 15:08:55 ubuntu dovecot: imap(info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=79/687
Nov 22 15:09:14 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3407]: warning: database /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db is older than source file /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
Nov 22 15:09:14 ubuntu postfix/smtps/smtpd[3407]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]

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I've also attached a screenshot of squirrelmail that says:

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Message not sent. Server replied:
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Is your server at your Office/Home or in an Data Center?
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What's about the SMTP Port? Did your ISP use Port 25 or 587 (SMTPS) or maybe port 465 (SMTPS)? Some Hosters/ISP's using also port 26 instead of 25! Also, did you run an Firewall? If so, have you place exceptions for the required ports in the Firewall Rules?

Check that all ports on your server you need to have open, are accessible from the Internet. You could use: http://www.mydnstools.info/smtprelay for to check that your Mail Server mail.mydomain.com is working on the internet. There also online Port Check Tools which you could use for that, google for it.
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Port 25 is open when scanned, but 587 seems closed.

Where do i configure the port number for smtp?

Results from relay site you gave me.

Quote:
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Test 1 from <relaytest@mydnstools.info> to <returntest@mydnstools.info>... ok
>>> RSET
<<< >>> MAIL FROM:<relaytest@mydnstools.info>
<<< >>> RCPT TO:<returntest@mydnstools.info>
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Test 2 from <relaytest@mydnstools.info> to <returntest%mydnstools.info@mail.uweigenbedrijfonl ine.nl>... ok
>>> RSET
<<< >>> MAIL FROM:<relaytest@mydnstools.info>
<<< >>> RCPT TO:<returntest%mydnstools.info@mail.uweigenbedrijf online.nl>
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Test 3 from <relaytest@mail.uweigenbedrijfonline.nl> to <returntest@mydnstools.info>... ok
>>> RSET
<<< >>> MAIL FROM:<relaytest@mail.uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>
<<< >>> RCPT TO:<returntest@mydnstools.info>
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As you use ISPConfig, use the Perfect Server Guide for Ubuntu for to configure the Mail correctly.

Maybe you check the SMTP of your ISP. If that is an Open Relay, means no need of Username and password, try that SMTP. In ISPConfig under System -->Server Config and System -->Main Config, you could set the required setting.

If you'll use the SMTP from your ISP, you just need to key in the SMTP Server name in System -->Server Config under the Mail Tab right of Relayhost.

That's how I use it on my server.
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Well, i`m finally getting somewhere..... I've changed the port numbers yesterday, then sended a email from gmail. Then gmail got a reply from postfix on my server that said:

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This is the mail system at host ubuntu.uweigenbedrijfonline.nl.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<info@uweigenbedrijfonline.nl>: unknown user: "info"
This made me wonder wether there is something wrong with the account, so i made another one on the same domain. Again i got the same reply inside gmail.

After this i made an email account on another domain, and guess what. The emails got sended and recieved.

Again, this made me wonder what was wrong with that other domain name. So i deleted it and recreated it, again same problem....

So for some reason, i just can't create email adresses for that specific domain name... Anyone any clues what go's wrong here?
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That means that the SMTP Settings for that domain are wrong. If you use Google's SMTP, you use SMTPS or SSMTP which both is Secure Mail Transport. Google didn't allows Mail Transport unsecured on Port 25.

Check with your Google Account which port is used, mainly it will be 587, but could be different! Use your Google Credentials for the SMTP/SMTPS/SSMTP in ISPConfig and in your Mail Client and test again.

Personally I would use an Open Relay SMTP Server and Port 25 which is the most easy to use. Use MyDNSTools for to find one in your Country. Start with the SMTP Server of your own ISP. If you didn't have the SMTP Server Addresses, google for it, special for your country, not abroad.
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