what should be in a vmail folder?

[crypted]

Okay, I was using ISPC2 for a few years and it wasn't using the same mail service as ISPC3 uses now. However, all mail was moved over and imported. I believe it was originally mbox and then transferred to mailbox.

Currently, I have this:

my:/var/vmail/derekgordon.com/derek# ls -lah
total 1.1M
drwx------ 28 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 11:00 .
drwx------  8 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-08-24 10:31 ..
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  103 2010-04-13 00:50 .antivirus.rc
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  938 2010-04-13 00:50 .autoresponder.rc
drwx------  5 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-09 10:32 Conservative Jobs
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-08 23:59 courierimaphieracl
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-07 14:15 courierimapkeywords
-rw-r--r--  1 vmail vmail  211 2010-08-15 18:16 courierimapsubscribed
-rw-r--r--  1 vmail vmail  62K 2010-10-26 11:00 courierimapuiddb
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 152K 2010-10-26 11:07 cur
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 08:56 .Deleted Items
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 8.4K 2010-04-14 23:36 dovecot.index
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 398K 2010-04-14 23:36 dovecot.index.cache
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  74K 2010-04-14 23:45 dovecot.index.log
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 129K 2010-04-09 10:04 dovecot.index.log.2
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail   13 2009-06-30 15:34 dovecot-keywords
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  25K 2010-04-14 23:36 dovecot-uidlist
drwx------  7 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-09 00:04 .Drafts
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-17 23:06 .Forum Posts
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-15 14:18 .Free Masons
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  68K 2010-04-13 00:50 .html-trap.rc
-rw-rw----  1 vmail vmail   98 2010-10-26 11:00 ispconfig_mailsize
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 00:16 .Junk
drwx------  5 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-09 10:30 .Junk E-mail
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 3.8K 2010-04-13 00:50 .local-rules.rc
drwx------ 21 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-09 10:32 Maildir
-rw-r-----  1 vmail vmail 2.8K 2010-10-26 11:07 maildirsize
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  204 2010-04-13 00:50 .mailsize.rc
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-08-31 14:46 .Military
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 11:00 new
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-07-14 23:49 .OCU
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-15 14:20 .Orders
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  656 2010-04-13 00:50 .quota.rc
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-08-18 14:17 .Registrations
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-15 14:17 .SAGONet
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 11:07 .Sent
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-25 21:04 .Sent Items
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2009-05-11 14:25 .spamassassin
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 1.2K 2010-04-13 00:50 .spamassassin.rc
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-04-15 00:16 .Spam Issue
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail  148 2010-04-04 21:07 subscriptions
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-04-15 00:16 .Tax Data
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 11:12 tmp
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-10-26 10:54 .Trash
drwx------  6 vmail vmail 4.0K 2010-08-31 14:45 .Travel Documents
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail 2.2K 2010-04-13 00:50 .user_prefs
-rwx------  1 vmail vmail   32 2010-04-13 00:50 .vacation.msg
drwx------  2 vmail vmail 4.0K 2009-05-11 14:25 web
my:/var/vmail/derekgordon.com/derek#

I end up with a bunch of random folders in my IMAP Outlook account that I have to hide. However, my IMAP cellphone software picks up every directory in vmail and calls it a subfolder of Inbox.

I'm thinking there's a bunch of useless crap here that needs to be removed.

Thoughts?

[falko]

I see you have folders/files for Courier and Dovecot. Which POP3/IMAP daemon do you use?

How did you import the mails? Did you use imapsync ( http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-mig...-with-imapsync )?

[crypted]

I went from what the default ISPC2 Perfect Install used to the ISPC3 Perfect Install's defaults.

I know there was a change in ISPC2 from mbox as I recall.

Then, on my upgrade to ISPC3 I moved the mail over.

My ISPC3 settings show: courier and maildrop.

I didn't use anything special to migrate. I had an old forum post where I was told to copy to the vmail. Per Till: "Recreate the mail accounts in ispconfig 3 on the new server. Then copy the content of the "Maildir" directory on the old server to the corresponding directory /var/vmail/domain.tld/user/ on the new server. Then chown the data to user and group vmail."

[falko]

You can remove all the *.rc files (these are old procmail recipes used by ISPConfig 2; they aren't used by ISPConfig 3) as well as .user_prefs and .vacation.msg. The dovecot* files can be removed as well because you're using Courier.

[crypted]

Sounds good, thanks Falko!

Curiously, why do all of my mail folders fall under Inbox after my ISCP2 -> 3 switch?

Folders look as follows:
INBOX
| - Sent
| - Drafts
| - Trash

Whereas it used to be:
| - Inbox
| - Sent
| - Trash
...

Just wondering...

[falko]

Good question. I think you should try imapsync next time to move your mails.

[crypted]

I agree. Wish I would have known of that the first time around!

[till]

Originally Posted by crypted

Sounds good, thanks Falko!

Curiously, why do all of my mail folders fall under Inbox after my ISCP2 -> 3 switch?

Folders look as follows:
INBOX
| - Sent
| - Drafts
| - Trash

Whereas it used to be:
| - Inbox
| - Sent
| - Trash
...

Just wondering...

Thast the normal behaviour when courier is used. I guess you had dovecot on the other server?

Normally you can configure this also in your mail client, by setting a prefix for INBOX.

[crypted]

Yes, courier is the default on this ISPC3 configuration. The ISPC2 I came from was dovecot.

Would dovecot be better to switch back to?

[till]

ISPConfig uses courier as default on debian as it offers more features like mail traffic accounting. If you dont need mail traffic stats, you can use dovecot as well. On some distributions that do not have courier packages, we use dovecot as default as there is no alternative available.

In general courier is as good as dovecot. They only differ in a fech technical details like the inbox format. You should be able to set this in your mailclient.

If you want to switch to dovecot, you would have to modify all inbox folders manually as the storage path for the mails differs.