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Old 15th April 2006, 10:03
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Gaming you say.... i dont normally suggest this, but if you are having BIG problems and you can transferr all of the data and to start using Damn Small Linux (it has GREAT device configuration[the best i believe, or you could go to CentOS]) i suggest that you use cdega OR crossover office. Since you are a collage student and all, you should know of the usefull tools of Bittorent.... i shall say no more. And as for the sound cards, it looks as if other people have been having problems http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/lin...04.2/1706.html.

Well there is a way, ive been researching
From what ive seen, nvidia is broken with the 2.6 kernels. There isnt a workaround yet, but people are working at it, all it really requires is getting the various binary packages working with fedora (and since fedora ships with ALSA, well alsa) I suggest to go down to the 2.5 kernel OR to use this experimental gentoo kernel (see other people have been working on it)
http://www.gentoo-portage.com/media-video/nvidia-kernel

Try those if they dont work, post you're problems (and if you have qualms about the bittorent thing, cdega is free for those who want to build the packages them selves)
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Old 15th April 2006, 10:37
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hmm, that gentoo site you posted got me wondering... my box is built around a DFI Lanparty UT nforce4 Ultra-D mainboard, but I'm using an ATI graphics card with the latest drivers I just compiled thanks to falko Do you think the kernel source from that could be causing the problem? here is the contents of /usr/src:

ATI
ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-x86_64.run
fglrx-control-qt3_8.23.7-1_amd64.deb
fglrx-driver_8.23.7-1_amd64.deb
fglrx-driver-dev_8.23.7-1_amd64.deb
fglrx-installer_8.23.7-1_amd64.changes
fglrx-kernel-2.6.16.1_8.23.7-1+custom.1.0_amd64.deb
fglrx-kernel-src_8.23.7-1_amd64.deb
fglrx-sources_8.23.7-1_amd64.deb
fglrx.tar.bz2
kernel-image-2.6.16.1_custom.1.0_amd64.deb
linux
linux-2.6.16.1
linux-2.6.16.1.tar.bz2
modules
NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0310-pkg1
NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0310-pkg1.run

what do you think? BTW is this the file where the kernel source is supposed to be? I'm a lil confused as to where that should be.
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Old 15th April 2006, 11:18
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Yes it looks alright. But you may have another problem. Does sound work on you're computer. If it doesnt, if may be muted

When i got fedora, my sound was muted so be carefull ;_;
run alsamixer in a terminal, hit right-arrow until you get to item "External Amplifier", and type "m" to toggle the mute setting. Also toggle settings on (such as PCI, blah, blah, to make SURE that everything works)

i have a hunch but (please forgive me if im wrong) but you have .deb packages their.... the fedora derivative is .rpm. I always got frustrated when i tried to install .deb packages in fedora, i always got errors. There is a partial workaround http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/.../msg00051.html
but there doesnt seem to be much hope. Its the way the fedora directory server is structured. There iis a way to get that on debian, but not on fedora http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/w...o:DebianUbuntu.
Yet this forum seems to have a solution http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...t=40622&page=4
In conclusion i think its .deb packages that are giving you the headaches.

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Old 15th April 2006, 15:36
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What's in the directories /lib/modules/2.6.16.1/source and /lib/modules/2.6.16.1/build?
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Old 15th April 2006, 23:24
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Well I am actually running Debian sarge sbovisjb1, but I'm not sure where to find alsamixer? I set the volume in with the vlume control icon in the upper right corner of the desktop, and also with volume control 2.8.0 a gnome/g streamer based mixer application.

and falko, here is /lib/modules/2.6.16.1/source:

total 8372
drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 2006-03-27 22:49 arch
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:13 block
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194 2006-04-12 00:11 conf.vars
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18693 2006-03-27 22:49 COPYING
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 89556 2006-03-27 22:49 CREDITS
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:27 crypto
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:29 debian
drwxr-xr-x 55 root root 4096 2006-03-27 22:49 Documentation
drwxr-xr-x 57 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:16 drivers
drwxr-xr-x 60 root root 8192 2006-04-12 00:13 fs
drwxr-xr-x 41 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 include
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:17 init
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:13 ipc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1250 2006-03-27 22:49 Kbuild
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:12 kernel
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:28 lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67876 2006-03-27 22:49 MAINTAINERS
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 44815 2006-04-05 03:25 Makefile
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:12 mm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166194 2006-04-12 00:27 Module.symvers
drwxr-xr-x 36 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:17 net
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15471 2006-03-27 22:49 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3065 2006-03-27 22:49 REPORTING-BUGS
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 scripts
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:28 security
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:16 sound
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:28 stamp-build
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-configure
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-debian
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:29 stamp-image
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-kernel-configure
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1314192 2006-04-12 00:17 System.map
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 usr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9124733 2006-04-12 00:17 vmlinux

and here is /lib/modules/2.6.16.1/build:

total 8372
drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 2006-03-27 22:49 arch
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:13 block
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194 2006-04-12 00:11 conf.vars
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18693 2006-03-27 22:49 COPYING
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 89556 2006-03-27 22:49 CREDITS
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:27 crypto
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:29 debian
drwxr-xr-x 55 root root 4096 2006-03-27 22:49 Documentation
drwxr-xr-x 57 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:16 drivers
drwxr-xr-x 60 root root 8192 2006-04-12 00:13 fs
drwxr-xr-x 41 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 include
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:17 init
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:13 ipc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1250 2006-03-27 22:49 Kbuild
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:12 kernel
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:28 lib
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67876 2006-03-27 22:49 MAINTAINERS
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 44815 2006-04-05 03:25 Makefile
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:12 mm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166194 2006-04-12 00:27 Module.symvers
drwxr-xr-x 36 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:17 net
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15471 2006-03-27 22:49 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3065 2006-03-27 22:49 REPORTING-BUGS
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 scripts
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:28 security
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:16 sound
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:28 stamp-build
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-configure
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-debian
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:29 stamp-image
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 2006-04-12 00:11 stamp-kernel-configure
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1314192 2006-04-12 00:17 System.map
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-04-12 00:11 usr
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9124733 2006-04-12 00:17 vmlinux

they look identical, is that normal?
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Old 15th April 2006, 23:27
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alsamixergui - graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
gnome-alsamixer - ALSA sound mixer for GNOME

are available in apt-cache search, should i be using one of these?
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Old 16th April 2006, 00:50
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Well ok i installed gnome-alsamixer, and now i have sound so i guess that was the problem Anyways, i'm figuring at this point the hell with the nforce sound drivers, i'll just use alsa and call it working well enough
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Old 16th April 2006, 03:02
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You have sound, but not on the nvidia graphics card, or do you?
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Old 16th April 2006, 09:45
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Well I have sound for desktop, the games in the desktop, system events, etc but I haven't tried any real games yet, so i'm not sure about that. I have an ATI graphics card, the chipset is an nvidia nforce 4. But one thing I have noticed is that the vloume settings in gnome-volume-control seem to reset to off whenever i reboot the system, you know how to fix this, or where the documentaion is to fix it? thanks for all the help by the way
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Old 16th April 2006, 10:32
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Well i figured out how to save the gnome-volume-control settings here :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ad.php?t=75851
for once, a problem was simple to fix
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