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Old 20th February 2006, 20:38
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Default TPS Fedora Core 4 Managing e-mail adr + Backup

Hello.

Thank you again so mutch for the super how to guide.
It`s people like you witch meens the world too the Linux scene.

My server is now up and running.

But i have some qestions.....

I have one domain witch i will have many e-mail addresses under (400+ in the future).
And it seems to bee a bit messy too use ISPconfig for this task.
I also want users to be able to change their e-mail pass, forward etc. per address.
And be able too give users ftp and web folders like "www.isp.dk/john2" where they can upload their homepages.
How do I manage this the best way and keep some system too it?

Another qestion, is it posible too run 2 servers where one is backup if the other one fails (has too be up to date with the main one)? And how to do it.

And finaly, what is the best way too backup this server (so that I can get it up an running fast on other hardware if something fails).
What will happen if a SQL base is open when the server is running backup, will it bee corrupted when I try tu reload the backup.

PS: sorry about my bad english.
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Old 20th February 2006, 22:36
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I also want users to be able to change their e-mail pass, forward etc. per address.
In ISPConfig, your users can do these changes themselves. They must go to http(s)://ispconfig_url:81/mailuser

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And be able too give users ftp and web folders like "www.isp.dk/john2" where they can upload their homepages.
Have a look at section 2.2.9 here: http://www.ispconfig.org/downloads/m..._src.htm#4_2_2

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Another qestion, is it posible too run 2 servers where one is backup if the other one fails (has too be up to date with the main one)? And how to do it.
Yes, you can use distributed file systems like Coda. You can also have a look at DRBD, NFS or rsync. But this is not trivial. Have a look at these pages:
http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/
http://linux-ha.org/DataRedundancyByDrbd
http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/

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And finaly, what is the best way too backup this server (so that I can get it up an running fast on other hardware if something fails).
The best would be to have a RAID system, i.e. two hard disks, and both contain the same data.
If you don't have a RAID system, have a look at these tutorials:
http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager
http://www.howtoforge.com/dedicated_...e_systemimager
http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_rdiff_backup

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What will happen if a SQL base is open when the server is running backup, will it bee corrupted when I try tu reload the backup.
I don't think so.
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Old 21st February 2006, 11:01
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Thank you falko

Is it also possible to give users (example www.isp.dk/users/john) axess too the web-ftp in ISPconfig?.

When users axess ftp they can see their mail folders, how do I change that (so they don`t delete something)?.
Maybee use the www as root dir.

The thing with many e-mail users under one domain is that it gets so messy.
I can`t seem to find a vay to sort them alfabeticly or search real names etc.
That`s not a problem in the beginning, but when there`s a lot of users I think it`s almoast impossible to manage.
Any tips?.

Another thing I noticed is that when i delete a e-mail account from ISPconfig, the files in the filesystem remain. Does this have to be done manualy, or is there a way to delete them too?.

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Old 21st February 2006, 11:40
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Thank you falko

Is it also possible to give users (www.isp.dk/users/john) axess too the web-ftp in ISPconfig?.

When users axess ftp they can see their mail folders, how do I change that (so they don`t delete something)?.
Maybee use the www as root dir.
You can only have one administrator user per website that has access to the web root.

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The thing with many e-mail users under one domain is that it gets so messy.
I can`t seem to find a vay to sort them alfabeticly or search real names etc.
That`s not a problem in the beginning, but when there`s a lot of users I think it`s almoast impossible to manage.
Any tips?.
Email suers cant be sorted or searched in ISPConfig 2.

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Another thing I noticed is that when i delete a e-mail account from ISPconfig, the files in the filesystem remain. Does this have to be done manualy, or is there a way to delete them too?.
The files will be deleted when you remove the email account from the reycle bin by emptying the recycle bin.
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Old 21st February 2006, 12:58
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I meant the users web root, not the domain.
Or maybye hiding the users mail dirs (so they don`t delete somting via ftp).

What about web-ftp so that the users can upload files to their sites ( example www.isp.dk/users/john).
Would be perfeckt if they could use web-ftp from the mailuser login.
Any other way too do this (plugins, progs etc.)

Is there a program for managing e-mails that can sort, search, etc. and can be used with this setup?
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Is there a program for managing e-mails that can sort, search, etc. and can be used with this setup?
You can use a normal email client like Outlook or Thunderbird.
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Old 22nd February 2006, 08:52
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I`m sorry you guys....
I really stink at trying to explain what I`m loocking for here.

The thing is that if you have one domain under ISPconfig where there are lots of e-mail users (addresses) it`s kinda hard to manage.
I haven`t found any way to search thru real names, sort alfabethicly etc in isp config. So when you have say 400 addresses under one domain, it`s relly hard to find the info you are locking for.

When users can change their own passwords, is it possible to make them use atleast 6 charakters forexample.

Also I would like to give users the web-ftp funcktion, so they can upload files to their web dirs etc. www.isp.co/users/tommy ......

Does this make any sense.
Again I`m sorry aboy my bad english.
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These things make sense, but the features are not available yet in ISPConfig. You can post them to the feature requests forum and if you have PHP skill we will be pleased if you want to try to make them available in ISPCOnfig.
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Ok, I will post them in the feature requests forum.

ISPconfig is really great thogh, the best I have tried yet.
But as with everything alse you don`t get all.

I`m useless at PHP, sorry.
I will promote ISPconfig thogh.
Relly grat support at the forums here!.

I`m really loocking forward to see future upgrades.

Is it possible to set strong password rules so user don set to easy passwords?.
And will it cause a problem to remove the User Prefixes..... (john.smith@ instead of web16_john.smith)?.
It also seems as all users get axess to web stats, how to avoid this?.

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Is it possible to set strong password rules so user don set to easy passwords?.
There is no such feature yet.

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And will it cause a problem to remove the User Prefixes..... (john.smith@ instead of web16_john.smith)?.
You can remove the prefixes, but usernames may not contain an "@" sign, as the @ is not allowed in linux systemuser names.


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It also seems as all users get axess to web stats, how to avoid this?.
To avoid this you will have to change the webalizer script in /root/ispconfig/scrips/shell/webalizer.php
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