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Old 11th December 2007, 06:00
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Default Two named processes running

Hello,

I followed this How-To (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p4). However, I also installed Webmin.

The only part where I deviated from the How-To was during the installation. I accidently installed BIND during the installation of Ubuntu when the How-To called for only installing OpenSSH. (page 2 of the install)

I now have a problem where there are two named processes that are typically running at once.

After a cold boot, there is one named process that is running. If I issue a "/etc/init.d/bind9 stop", the process is killed and no longer present. Conversely, the command "/etc/init.d/bind9 start" brings the process back to life.

Browsing into Webmin though, the BIND Server page does not report the server as running even though the named process is running. The same is true in the System & Server Status page in Webmin. It reports BIND as down. If I click on "Start Server" in the BIND Server page, I now have two named processes running.

In order to configure the nameserver, I really need to know which is which. I really don't know if I have two versions installed or am just starting two processes from the same installation.

Either way, I would really appreciate help in troubleshooting this process. After every boot, I have to manually shut one down and start the other.

FYI - there are no errors in the syslog

Thanks,
Tom
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What are the outputs of
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ps aux
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netstat -tap
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Output of ps aux
Code:
USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.2   2948  1852 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:01 /sbin/init
root         2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kthreadd]
root         3  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [migration/0]
root         4  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        SN   Dec10   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root         5  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [watchdog/0]
root         6  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [events/0]
root         7  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [khelper]
root        26  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root        27  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kacpid]
root        28  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kacpi_notify]
root        91  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kseriod]
root       110  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 [pdflush]
root       111  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 [pdflush]
root       112  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kswapd0]
root       164  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [aio/0]
root      1844  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [ksuspend_usbd]
root      1845  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [khubd]
root      1865  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [ata/0]
root      1867  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [ata_aux]
root      1967  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root      1968  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root      2155  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:01 [kjournald]
root      2315  0.0  0.1   2320   668 ?        S<s  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/udevd --d
root      3202  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec10   0:00 [kpsmoused]
root      5488  0.0  0.0   1692   516 tty4     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
root      5489  0.0  0.0   1696   520 tty5     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
root      5492  0.0  0.0   1696   520 tty2     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
root      5493  0.0  0.0   1696   520 tty3     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
root      5494  0.0  0.0   1692   516 tty1     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
root      5495  0.0  0.0   1696   516 tty6     Ss+  Dec10   0:00 /sbin/getty 384
syslog    5543  0.0  0.1   1912   736 ?        Rs   Dec10   0:01 /sbin/syslogd -
root      5562  0.0  0.0   1836   536 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if
klog      5564  0.0  0.2   2600  1408 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /sbin/klogd -P
root      5612  0.0  0.1   5280   972 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
virtual   5647  0.0  7.3  55300 47264 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:01 amavisd (master
root      5679  0.0  0.0   1752   528 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bi
mysql     5719  0.0  1.1  46536  7712 ?        Sl   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysql
root      5720  0.0  0.0   1676   548 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 logger -p daemo
postgrey  5779  0.0  1.2  10840  8068 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/postg
root      6133  0.0  0.0   1864   432 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6134  0.0  0.1   4388  1080 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6149  0.0  0.0   1868   432 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6150  0.0  0.0   1972   612 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6169  0.0  0.0   1868   352 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6170  0.0  0.0   1972   592 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6181  0.0  0.2   4432  1300 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6183  0.0  0.2   4432  1300 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6184  0.0  0.2   4432  1300 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6185  0.0  0.2   4432  1300 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6186  0.0  0.2   4432  1300 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/courie
root      6188  0.0  0.0   1968   528 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6191  0.0  0.0   1732   344 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6209  0.0  0.0   1868   352 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6210  0.0  0.0   1972   592 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/couri
root      6215  0.0  0.6   6292  4344 ?        S    Dec10   0:06 ddclient - slee
root      6276  0.0  0.2   5324  1668 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/lib/postfi
postfix   6281  0.0  0.2   5372  1784 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo
postfix   6282  0.0  0.3   5652  2388 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 tlsmgr -l -t un
root      6293  0.0  0.2   6416  1312 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd
root      6295  0.0  0.3   9900  2228 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd
root      6309  0.0  0.1   9900   912 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd
root      6310  0.0  0.1   7456   752 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sasla
root      6312  0.0  0.0   7456   480 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sasla
root      6313  0.0  0.0   7456   364 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sasla
root      6314  0.0  0.0   7456   364 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sasla
root      6315  0.0  0.0   7456   364 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/sasla
root      6327  0.0  0.2   7988  1296 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/winbi
root      6376  0.0  0.1   7988  1076 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/winbi
ntp       6388  0.0  0.1   4108  1248 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
proftpd   6407  0.0  0.2   9500  1528 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 proftpd: (accep
daemon    6421  0.0  0.0   1964   432 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root      6432  0.0  0.1   2332   908 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root      6454  0.0  0.9  21880  6420 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
www-data  6486  0.0  1.3  23852  8440 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
www-data  6487  0.0  0.6  21904  4492 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
www-data  6488  0.0  0.6  21904  4476 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
www-data  6489  0.0  0.6  21904  4452 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
www-data  6490  0.0  0.6  21904  4480 ?        S    Dec10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
root      6491  0.0  1.0  10316  6528 ?        Ss   Dec10   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /
bind      8013  0.0  3.0  47588 19648 ?        Ssl  Dec10   0:01 /usr/sbin/named
www-data 11827  0.0  1.2  22784  7984 ?        S    Dec11   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
virtual  13789  0.0  8.1  63100 52420 ?        Ss   Dec11   0:04 /usr/sbin/clamd
root     14050  0.0  3.4  50380 22440 ?        Ssl  Dec11   0:02 /usr/sbin/named
www-data 16921  0.0  0.6  21904  4492 ?        S    Dec11   0:00 /usr/sbin/apach
virtual  25677  0.0  7.3  56340 47380 ?        S    12:00   0:00 amavisd (ch1-av
virtual  25839  0.0  7.3  56344 47368 ?        S    12:18   0:00 amavisd (ch1-av
postfix  26025  0.0  0.2   5332  1668 ?        S    12:45   0:00 pickup -l -t fi
root     26558  0.0  0.3   8032  2412 ?        Ss   14:04   0:00 sshd: hidden [
hidden  26560  0.0  0.2   8032  1524 ?        S    14:04   0:00 sshd: hidden@p
hidden  26561  0.2  0.4   5588  2944 pts/0    Ss   14:04   0:00 -bash
root     26602  1.0  0.1   2620  1000 pts/0    R+   14:05   0:00 ps aux
Output of netstat -tap
Code:
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
tcp        0      0 localhost:60000         *:*                     LISTEN     5779/postgrey.pid -
tcp        0      0 localhost:10024         *:*                     LISTEN     5647/amavisd (maste
tcp        0      0 localhost:10025         *:*                     LISTEN     6276/master
tcp        0      0 localhost:mysql         *:*                     LISTEN     5719/mysqld
tcp        0      0 *:netbios-ssn           *:*                     LISTEN     6295/smbd
tcp        0      0 *:submission            *:*                     LISTEN     6276/master
tcp        0      0 *:webmin                *:*                     LISTEN     6491/perl
tcp        0      0 *:ssmtp                 *:*                     LISTEN     6276/master
tcp        0      0 gopher.hidden *:*                     LISTEN     8013/named
tcp        0      0 localhost:domain        *:*                     LISTEN     8013/named
tcp        0      0 *:ftp                   *:*                     LISTEN     6407/proftpd: (acce
tcp        0      0 gopher.hidden:ssh *:*                     LISTEN     5612/sshd
tcp        0      0 localhost:953           *:*                     LISTEN     8013/named
tcp        0      0 *:smtp                  *:*                     LISTEN     6276/master
tcp        0      0 *:microsoft-ds          *:*                     LISTEN     6295/smbd
tcp        0   2076 hidden:ssh hidden:48285 ESTABLISHED26558/sshd: hidden
tcp6       0      0 *:imaps                 *:*                     LISTEN     6170/couriertcpd
tcp6       0      0 *:pop3s                 *:*                     LISTEN     6210/couriertcpd
tcp6       0      0 *:pop3                  *:*                     LISTEN     6188/couriertcpd
tcp6       0      0 *:imap2                 *:*                     LISTEN     6150/couriertcpd
tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN     6454/apache2
tcp6       0      0 *:domain                *:*                     LISTEN     8013/named
tcp6       0      0 ip6-localhost:953       *:*                     LISTEN     8013/named
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Hm, are there any errors related to BIND in your logs?
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Default Results of syslog

I checked the syslog and I don't see any errors really. I haven't configured anything other than the installation (i.e. no zone files have been created).

Code:
Dec  8 08:23:49 gopher kernel: [   19.247453] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Dec  8 08:23:49 gopher kernel: [   19.248340] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
Dec  8 08:23:51 gopher named[5561]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -u bind -t /var/lib/named
Dec  8 08:23:51 gopher named[5561]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec  8 08:23:55 gopher amavis[5618]: Net::Server: Binding to UNIX socket file /var/run/amavis/amavisd.sock using SOCK_STREAM
Dec  8 08:23:55 gopher amavis[5618]: Net::Server: Binding to TCP port 10024 on host 127.0.0.1
Dec  8 08:23:59 gopher postgrey[5750]: Binding to TCP port 60000 on host 127.0.0.1  
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -c /etc/bind/named.conf
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied
Dec  8 08:28:35 gopher named[6626]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied
Dec 10 18:38:47 gopher kernel: [   19.107016] TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Dec 10 18:38:47 gopher kernel: [   19.107905] TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
Dec 10 18:38:49 gopher named[5590]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -u bind -t /var/lib/named
Dec 10 18:38:49 gopher named[5590]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec 10 18:38:53 gopher amavis[5647]: Net::Server: Binding to UNIX socket file /var/run/amavis/amavisd.sock using SOCK_STREAM
Dec 10 18:38:53 gopher amavis[5647]: Net::Server: Binding to TCP port 10024 on host 127.0.0.1
Dec 10 18:38:57 gopher postgrey[5779]: Binding to TCP port 60000 on host 127.0.0.1  
Dec 10 21:34:11 gopher named[7849]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -u bind -t /var/lib/named
Dec 10 21:34:11 gopher named[7849]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec 10 21:44:10 gopher named[8013]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -u bind -t /var/lib/named
Dec 10 21:44:10 gopher named[8013]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -c /etc/bind/named.conf
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: binding TCP socket: address in use
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied
Dec 11 08:34:40 gopher named[14050]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied
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What's the output of
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ls -l /etc/bind/rndc.key
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Default Permission on rndc.key

Here are the results you asked for:

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-rw-r----- 1 bind bind 77 2007-10-28 21:46 /etc/bind/rndc.key
I really don't mind if I were to uninstall them both and start over. I just don't know where to find both of them.

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Default Uninstall and Reinstall

I performed the command
Code:
apt-get remove --purge bind9
It appeared that everything was removed successfully except some of the zone files under the /var/lib/named directory.

Then I started over. I performed the command
Code:
apt-get install bind9
After doing so, I issued a few start and stop commands by using
Code:
/etc/init.d/bind9 stop
and
Code:
/etc/init.d/bind9 start
After each time, Webmin reported the server up or down exactly how my SSH was reporting the status. So it appears that the two are in sync and that there is only one process running when I checked
Code:
netstat -tap
and
Code:
ps -aux
after each start command and no processes were running when I issued the stop command.

Then I moved through the How To again to chroot the BIND process. These are the commands I issued:

Code:
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 stop
 * Stopping domain name service... bind                                                                     [ OK ]
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo vi /etc/default/bind9
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/named/etc
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mkdir /var/lib/named/dev
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/named/var/cache/bind
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/named/var/run/bind/run
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mv /etc/bind /var/lib/named/etc
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo ln -s /var/lib/named/etc/bind /etc/bind
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mknod /var/lib/named/dev/null c 1 3
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo mknod /var/lib/named/dev/random c 1 8
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo chmod 666 /var/lib/named/dev/null /var/lib/named/dev/random
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo chown -R bind:bind /var/lib/named/var/*
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo chown -R bind:bind /var/lib/named/etc/bind
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo vi /etc/default/syslogd
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
 * Restarting system log daemon...                                                                          [ OK ]
hidden@gopher:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 start
 * Starting domain name service... bind                                                                     [fail]
I checked the syslog log file after the above error and this was the result:

Code:
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: starting BIND 9.4.1-P1 -u bind -t /var/lib/named
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf'
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: file not found
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: loading configuration: file not found
Dec 15 12:20:18 gopher named[6977]: exiting (due to fatal error)
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Did you create this symlink?
Code:
ln -s /var/lib/named/etc/bind /etc/bind
Before you did the reinstall, it would have been enough to change /etc/bind/rndc.key's permissions...
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Default Confirmed

The symlink was created. It was seven or eight lines into the commands in my previous post. I double checked through the Webmin File Manager and it shows the symlink icon as well.

I am rather new to Linux and symlinks. If I understand the command shown in the How To, we are creating a "shortcut" pointing to /etc/bind.

That would explain why I see the symlink icon in the file manager under /var/lib/named. But I also see a symlink icon for "bind" under /etc/. I don't have a separate folder called "bind" because I think we moved it as part of the How To.

Does this seem correct?

Lastly, what should the permissions be on the rndc.key file anyway?
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