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Old 26th February 2008, 08:32
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Default Issue resolving to correct domain name with telnet

Hi,

I have installed the munin package on one of my Ubuntu 7.10 servers and I run munin agents on all other servers (2 x Ubuntu 7.10). These munin agents are linking through to the one server, on which I can see all servers and all domain's perfomrance graphs -well, all but one server.

One server shows as node in munin, but shows no graphs. To ensure it is not a firewall or connection issue, I have installed the munin server on that physical server as well - to no avail - still no graphs.

I found this in the munin wiki:
Quote:
No graphs at all
Problem: Munin does not create any graphs. There is only an almost empty web page.
Solution: The hostname that the Munin master expects is probably different from the hostname reported by the node. Normally, the hostname in the host definition [host.example.com] in the master's munin.conf must be the same that the node reports when telnetting to port 4949. You can change the reported hostname with the host_name directive in the node's munin-node.conf file. Another solution is to add use_node_name yes to the host section in the master's munin.conf file.
Now, I tried all combinations of host_name and use_node_directive to no avail. I tested connections with telnet and got this result:
Code:
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login02.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.11...
Connected to finch.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
# munin node at login02.chillifire.net
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login03.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.36...
Connected to login03.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login01.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.43...
Connected to login01.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login02.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.11...
Connected to finch.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
# munin node at login02.chillifire.net
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login03.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.36...
Connected to login03.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind# telnet login01.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.43...
Connected to login01.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@finch:/etc/bind#
'login02.chillifire.net' is the culprit. And see how that domain is not resolved by telnet to 'login02.chillifire.net' but to 'finch.chillifire.net'? finch is the hostname by the way. Now, when I run the same test on one of the other servers, the behaviour is expected:
Code:
root@blackbird:/etc# telnet login01.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.43...
Connected to login01.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@blackbird:/etc# telnet login02.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.11...
Connected to login02.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
root@blackbird:/etc# telnet login03.chillifire.net 4949
Trying 210.48.62.36...
Connected to login03.chillifire.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
So it seems quite likely that the problems I am observing come from the behaviour of the finch server to resolve 210.48.62.11 to finch.chillifre.net instead of login02.chillifire.net.

So the $60000 question is this: Where do telnet (and munin) get the idea the server's domain name is finch.chillifire.net instead of login02.chillifire.net?


I checked the /etc/hosts files and could see no significant differences. No DNS record for finch.chillifire.net exists, so Bind cannot be the culprit.

Please help (I am beginning to be desperate)

Cheers

chillifire

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hosts file on finch (which behaves incorrectly)
Code:
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
210.48.62.11    finch.chillifire.net    finch
210.48.62.11    radius02.chillifire.net radius02
210.48.62.11    login02.chillifire.net  login02
210.48.62.11    mysql02.chillifire.net  mysql02

::1     ip6-localhost   ip6-loopback finch.chillifire.net
fe00:0  ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-macastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
hosts file on blackbird (which behaves correctly)
Code:
127.0.0.1       localhost.localadmin            localhost
210.48.62.30    blackbird.chillifire.net        blackbird

::1     ip6-localhost   ip6-loopback blackbird.chillifire.net
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff03::3 ip6-allhosts
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Old 26th February 2008, 09:55
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It is either the reverse dns returns that our the service you are talking to thinks that is the hostname.
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Old 26th February 2008, 09:59
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Default what you mean?

Thanks for your fats response.
You say, it is either the reverse dns returns, or what ...? I did not quite understand your response.
Can I ask you to elaborate just a little bit?
Thanks

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Old 26th February 2008, 10:03
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The service running on port 4949 thinks that is its hostname possibly due to a configuration option.
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Old 26th February 2008, 10:42
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Default reverse DNS

I see, thanks.

The service running on 4949 is munin, more precisely munin-node on this server. There is nothing in this service's config that would lead it to believe it's hostname is 'finch.chillifire.net'. In fact, in my desperation I copied the config file from the working blackbird server (as they are all connecting back to the same reporting server the config is exchangeable between agents) - to no avail.

Leaves the 'reverse DNS entries' you talked about. How would I find out about those? As I wrote, there are no DNS entries in existence for that hostname in the authoriative Bind DNS server.
Code:
$  dig finch.chillifire.net
will give you 0 answers, as it should.
Code:
$  dig login02.chillifire.net
will give you 2 valid DNS entries - as it should)
I am not quite clear how there could be reverse DNS entries, if there are no DNS entries in the first place?
Could you explain, where and what to look for these reverse DNS entries, please?

Thanks, your help is appreciated

chillifire
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Old 26th February 2008, 10:48
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DNS maps names to ip, reverse DNS maps ip to name. I have had a similer problem before with telnet, i think it is the way it handles nsswitch.

Try running it under strace you should be able to see, how it is resolving names.
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Old 26th February 2008, 17:46
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Default reverse DNS record looks allright

Hi topdog,

server finch is a slave dns server to blackbird (and has been for a long time). blackbird's reverse dns record looks as attached. As you can probably guess from the last line, it is not even constructed by me but generated by ISPConfig.
As you can see there is no reference to finch.chillifire.net in there. Also, if it was a reverse DNS problem coming from this set up, the command telnet login02.chillifire.net should point to finch.chillifire.net everywhere. The fact is it does so only on finch. There must be some configuration on finch somewhere, that is nowhere else. I just cannot think of what that configuration could be out side /etc/hosts and Bind DNS (which both do not seem problematic).

Any other ideas?

Code:
$TTL        86400
@               IN      SOA     ns01.chillifire.net. hostmaster.chillifire.net. (
                                2008022301       ; serial, todays date + todays serial #
                                28800   ; Refresh
                                7200    ; Retry
                                604800  ; Expire
                                86400)  ; Minimum TTL
                        NS      ns01.chillifire.net.
                        NS      ns02.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     chillifire.net.
30       PTR     www.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     mail.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     ns01.chillifire.net.
11       PTR     ns02.chillifire.net.
11       PTR     radius02.chillifire.net.
36       PTR     radius03.chillifire.net.
11       PTR     mysql02.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     mysql01.chillifire.net.
11       PTR     login02.chillifire.net.
43       PTR     login01.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     radius01.chillifire.net.
36       PTR     mysql03.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     admin01.chillifire.net.
36       PTR     login03.chillifire.net.
36       PTR     prewikka.chillifire.net.
30       PTR     onlinecellardoor.com.
30       PTR     www.onlinecellardoor.com.
30       PTR     mail.onlinecellardoor.com.
30       PTR     chillifire.co.nz.
30       PTR     www.chillifire.co.nz.
30       PTR     mail.chillifire.co.nz.

;;;; MAKE MANUAL ENTRIES BELOW THIS LINE! ;;;;
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The last time i had a similar problem i used strace to see what system calls telnet was making, it turned out to be nscd which had cached the wrong name,

Do you have nscd running ?

Running strace will help you to get to the bottom of the problem.
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Default no nscd

I don't have NSCD installed on my server. I also have no strace yet. I will give that a try to see what it tells me. You say it should tell me how IP addresses are resilve to hostnames and vice versa?
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it will show you the system calls being made by the telnet command.
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