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Old 12th June 2012, 20:02
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Hi fellow users and devs,

to not bore you with long text I will cut it short.

Big commercial and proprietary control panels/management suites are by nature backed by a (large) company investing in marketing to reach their potential customers and sell the product.
cPanel/WHM and Parallels are big players making big bucks with the licenses for products not even superior to ISPConfig 3.

Open-Source does not need to hide from proprietary software. It needs to compete with it.

Therefore I wish for ISPConfig to be more approachable.
The community is very important for an open-source project and I think a little marketing might help expanding the reach and maybe help increase contributions.

I have a little free time coming my way and I would love to invest it in ISPConfig.

My ideas:
  1. develop a "simple" corporate design to streamline homepage, twitter, facebook, documentations and the rest; new logo -> brand recognition
  2. overhaul of the public website (ispconfig.org+.de+.com are there more tlds?)
  3. overhaul of the publicly available development resources
  4. add public mailing lists (dev="chat" for dev related topics, announce=announcement of new versions)
  5. add FAQ DB like http://www.phpmyfaq.de/
  6. engage users on twitter and facebook (both sites might need a design change)
  7. LATER: engage big scene sites (open-source, web, dev, webmaster-sites) to take a look at
please give me some input or shoot me down

@DEVS:
What are your plans for the future? Interested in me helping out?
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Old 12th June 2012, 20:48
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Hello Christian,

thank you for your thougts to improve ISPConfig. Many of them are already underway as we are currently working on new websites and ISPConfig 3.0.5 which is one of the biggest releases of ISPConfig. Here a few answers to your questions and remarks:

1-3) Thats already in the works and will get published soon.
4) We have a email announcement list, you can subscribe on ispconfig.org. Beside that, all announcements are available via Twitter, Facebook and RSS feed. Regardong development, we have the dev forum here. Personally I'am not a fan of mailing lists.
5) Weare already present at twitter and Facebook. I agree thatw e should do more on these channels and the redesign is already underway.
6) I totally agree that we should do more community building

I guess you underestimate the size of the ispconfig project a bit, ISPConfig has about 30 - 40 thousand downloads each month and thats since quite some time, so I guess that we range already in the upper region of Hosting Control panels

I'am glad for everyone who likes to help us to improve the ISPConfig project
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Old 12th June 2012, 20:58
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I knew ISPConfig is pretty successful but you find it only if you dig deep for control panels. It is just not a brand you see referenced on hosting sites. That is what I would like to see changed.

If you can use my help in any regard do not hesitate to ask.

One tip: try not to create double content by using both ispconfig.org and ispconfig.com for the English version of the site.
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I knew ISPConfig is pretty successful but you find it only if you dig deep for control panels. It is just not a brand you see referenced on hosting sites. That is what I would like to see changed.
Do you have any ideas how to change this? Are there easy ways to change this (it shouldn't consume too much time because working on ISPConfig and HowtoForge already takes sooo much time...)?

We are open for ideas.
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to establish the brand "ISPConfig" you need to be (1.) found by the right keywords by the Google and Bing Search, (2.) reviews and articles on big sites people are turning for help on finding open-source software and/or control panels + (3.) word of mouth.
  • optimized website (on the way) (technically)
    • no duplicate content
    • well maintained content incl always up-to-date feature list
    • right usage of <h*> and <ul>-elements -> ups the siterank
  • optimized website (on the way) (visually)
    • rival the professional and understated design of commercial product sites
    • by presentation ISPConfig is a wolf in sheep's clothing - the wolf needs to show some teeth
    • show off!!
  • directly engage
    • blogs and web news sites (like t3n, smashing magazine, etc) to review and write about the software
    • user (hoster, admins) to proudly announce the great feature "ISPConfig control panel" with a backlink to ispconfig.org (like you do in https://timmehosting.de/)
  • be more open to the public
    • list developers on the website with "positions"/responsibilities -> might stimulate contributors
    • provide statistics of dl/month, man-hours invested in development or problems/errors resolved
    • show off the progress in development (on GitHub you see all kind of stats showing the progress and the activity generated by contributors; I know Git is not your choice, no offense: https://github.com/blog/1093-introdu...-github-graphs)
    • feature comparison with "all" other control panels (a big plus for ISPConfig)
    • open reference-list for users to add their sites to
    • tell people how to contribute on the website
      • open "positions" (php-dev, designer, forum admin, social media team (twitter and facebook could profit from a few dedicated reps)
      • ask for tweets about ISPC
      • let them contribute e.g. by using the Amazon-Partnerprogramm -> earnings should be published and used e.g. for external services like Hootsuite or the acquisition of graphic resources if needed

Again a lot from me. Sorry
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Hi,

I think one more way to get ISPConfig more popular is to get server providers (like hetzner, myLoc, 1&1 etc.) to provide ISPConfig as a panel in their default server images like they offer plesk, confixx (and often cpanel/WHM).
I tried to introduce ISPC to a server provider few days ago but the reply was "this panel is not requested by our customers, so providing it as default image is too much work for us". They said they might do it later, as confixx will be discontinued at the end of this year.

I'll try to bother the server provider again from time to time maybe it helps.

What I think would help to reduce inhibition threshold would be a completely unattended setup.
Currently there are some questions you have to answer even during basic install. Maybe the setup script could be extended for unattended call with mandatory parameters on shell - using all the default values without having to press enter, like:
php install.php --unattended --dbhost="localhost" --dbuser="root" --dbpass="rootpass"

Update: I just got a reply from a provider basically saying: "it is on our agenda, but do not expect it short-term"

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