Well, the manual says to use suexec, I'd need to comment out the IfModule mod_php5 section of /etc/httpd/conf/sites-available/ispconfig.vhost so, to not use it, the reverse would be true, correct?
Well the interesting thing is that it already was uncommented. However, the ifmodule mod_fcgid.c section was above it. On a hunch, I commented THAT out.
The ispconfig site then went to the apache httpd.conf default directory which was a custom file the other admin that's helping had created at /var/www/html/index.html
So apparently the ifmodule mod_php5.c was failing. Poked around a bit and saw that php.conf under the httpd/conf/conf.d/ folder had
LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so
LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5-zts.so
commented out. I uncommented and restarted apache and everything is working now. But not through fcgi. So while ispconfig is WORKING, fcgid is probably still broken. *grumble*
Thanks for the help.