yes I do mean postfix, our linux servers use apache and postfix, a few of them also use TLS.
But those other servers are all for use with people using mail clients and whatnot, in this case the mail is going to be generated on the server itself when a user fills in a form on the website.
For reasons that I can't yet figure out, I can't get the server to start a TLS session when sending these particular mails
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