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zimele 9th December 2006 16:23

SPF Record Query
 
Hi All

I was wondering how to configure an SPF Record


what values to include on all the different fields i'm using the ISPConfig DNS Manager

Hostname:

Are emails sent
from A Record?: NoYes

Are emails sen
from MX Record?: NoYes

Are emails sent
from all servers of
this domain?: NoYes

Are emails sent
from other A Records?:

Are emails sent
from other MX Records?:

Are emails sent
from other IP addresses?:
Inherit SPF Record
from this zone?:

Do the above entries
contain all hosts
allowed to send emails
for this domain?:

Basically all i need really is a breakdown on what to include...

edge 9th December 2006 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by zimele
Hi All

I was wondering how to configure an SPF Record

what values to include on all the different fields i'm using the ISPConfig DNS Manager

Hostname:

Are emails sent
from A Record?: NoYes

Are emails sent
from MX Record?: NoYes

Are emails sent
from all servers of
this domain?: NoYes

Are emails sent
from other A Records?:

Are emails sent
from other MX Records?:

Are emails sent
from other IP addresses?:
Inherit SPF Record
from this zone?:

Do the above entries
contain all hosts
allowed to send emails
for this domain?:

Basically all i need really is a breakdown on what to include...

Basically it's what it is saying..
ie: If you are using an A record to send email set it to yes. If not, set it to no
It's the same for all the other option..
(it's all about how you have set up your DNS)

A nice way to see if the SPF record is okay, is by sending an email to a gmail account.

Looking at the headers of the email you will see:

a good SPF record example: Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of your@emailaddress.tld designates ip_from_your_server as permitted sender)

a bad SPF record example: Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of your@emailaddress.tld designates ip_from_your_server as permitted sender)
(note the: "best guess record for" part!)

zimele 9th December 2006 17:24

More Help Please?
 
Thanks edge for the speedy response

Okay help me understand when you say sending mail from an A record meaning ?

cause i have not configured a seperate A record that will host my mail (so i take it its a no Right?

This is where i really get lost...

Are emails sent
from other A Records?:

Are emails sent
from other MX Records?:

Are emails sent
from other IP addresses?:
Inherit SPF Record
from this zone?:

Do the above entries
contain all hosts
allowed to send emails
for this domain?:


Could you please better describe this...

and another thing does that mean that every domain that i create i have to include a SPF record?

edge 9th December 2006 17:48

Are you using the DNS server of the domain registrar, or are you using your own DNS server?
(it does help if you post the domainname here, so we can have a look)

zimele 10th December 2006 13:59

Still not 100%
 
i'm running on my own DNS servers

i did create my own SPF rcord this is what it looks like
"v=spf1 ip4:196.211.246.10 a mx ptr a:mail.ulwazint.co.za mx:ns2.ulwaziweb.co.za ~all"

does this look correct?

my domain is ulwazint.co.za

any reason why my mail still gets delivered to the BULK folder

edge 10th December 2006 14:15

your SPF looks okay,

The "bulk" problem could be
(1) Your reverse DNS is still not set correct.
(2) You will need to email the webmasters of Hotmail and Yahoo.
See this article about the Bulk mail problem with hotmail (msn)

zimele 11th December 2006 08:04

Reverese Dns
 
Is my reverse dns not automatically created within ispconfig when i do create a zone file?

sgrayban 11th December 2006 08:50

BULK and dns aren't the same. Hotmail likes to put a lot of my mail into bulk & junk when its not. I think they use *sstupid* filters on there end.

So having a SPF record and the issues with mcrosoft are separate issues.

zimele 11th December 2006 15:38

Could this be an answer
 
through further research today i found that if i send mail through Squirrelmail and not UebiMiau! my email gets delivered properly to the Inbox (yahoo and Hotmail)

this is through a domain with A SPF record and a domain without one still under the same ISPConfig server

now my question is what is an alternative to UebiMiau or better yet how would i also go by adding that email frontend to a .pkg cause i know that i'll get it probably in a .tar.gz file and also because squirrelmail is too basic and requires alot of tweaking

if this is the case that should mean that my email is not being taken as SPAM or junk mail on other email clients like (yahoo and Hotmail) right? :o

Oh ran further tests and this was the outcome

the scenario

2 Email Accounts 1 from a domain with a SPF Record another from a Domain without An SPF Record
3 Testing grounds (Outlook, Squirrelmail and Ueibmaiu)
2 Mail Accounts Yahoo and Hotmail

sent from domain 1 (without SPF record) and domain 2 (with SPF Record)
delivered to Inbox Correctly

via outlook
Both Domains
Yahoo= Delivered Properly
Hotmail= Delivered Properly

via Squirrelmail
domain 1 (without SPF record)
yahoo= Delivered to Inbox
hotmail= delivered to junk mail folder

domain 2 with SPF record
yahoo= Delivered to Bulk mail
hotmail= Delivered to junk mail

What to do??

sgrayban 11th December 2006 17:55

I'm not getting that result here. What are the domain names so I can look at the SPF records.


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