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quentusrex 3rd November 2008 14:07

ISPConfig3 Install writeups and Software integration modules
I am currently building a list of software that will be very simple to integrate into ISPConfig3. Once I have a list of software, and a better understanding about how to convert a write up to a full module, I'll start getting modules submitted.

Here is a short list of software:
1. RoundCube webmail(this brings up the requirement for clients to be able to choose one webmail over another. This means that the install method where all *.com/webmail/ goes to a single webmail software will have to change to allow different domains to choose different webmail clients)
2. SVN
3. Trac
4. Bugzilla
5. Doxygen for SVN(very very useful for auto documenting source code
6. MediaWiki
7. Drupal (both 5 and 6)
8. Mailman( mailing lists:, and )
9. Requests?

My plan is to be able to allow a hosting providor to offer MANY software choices to the clients.

quentusrex 3rd November 2008 14:08

I'll also need information on how a module can be restricted to only be installed on a particular OS. Because my installs are currently for Ubuntu 8.04, they won't work on CentOS without changes.

quentusrex 3rd November 2008 17:12

I have read that the best way 'currently' to use mailman with virtual hosts is to have a separate install for each host. I think that is workable. Here is the link:

I'll get started.

kalua 3rd November 2008 18:15

So I wouldn't install it via apt-get mailmain?
I would instead grab the source and put it in the webroot?

I'll give it a try

kalua 3rd November 2008 22:38

I just set up mailman on an virtual machine. This was surprising easy, here are the steps:
  • apt-get mailman
  • during setup you can choose languages
  • you will also be asked a few questions (mailman admin password, email etc)
  • newlist mailman (you will be remembered by the packet installer)
  • ln -s /etc/mailman/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/mailman.conf

After installing the packet you have to add the following to /etc/aliases


## mailman mailing list
mailman:              "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:        "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request:      "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:    "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"

The installer will give you the entries for your system, he just cant add it by himself.

In mailman.conf is a VirtualHost section which is commented out. Enable it and change the DocumentRoot (/usr/share/mailman/), ServerName (lists.domain.tld) and the LogFile (I just put these in ...client1/web1/log) destinations.

After that, restart apache and point your browser to:


Thats it. So I don't think its necessary to install mailmain from source. At least the installer of the debian packet did a pretty good job so I didn't need to change anything in /etc/mailman/

quentusrex 4th November 2008 13:20

Can two different domains have a list with the same name? such as list@domain1.tld and then list@domain2.tld?

What steps are required to install for another user?

kalua 4th November 2008 14:28

AFAIKT this is not possible. In /etc/mailman/ you define DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST

But maybe you can override this settings in the mailman config if you create new lists. I havn't tried this.

Mailman seems to be a really beast if you want a multiclient-mailman.
On the install you have to change /etc/aliases, so you need root access or at least privileges to alter this file. If you want to have more than one "mailman-root-admin" you would also need more than one aliase-block (listinfo, admin,....)

quentusrex 4th November 2008 16:08

I've just read that it will be ready in mailman 3.0. But not until then. I hear on IRC that this might be working in 2.2.

I'm curious how the separate admins would work? How would each virtual host manage their own lists?

kalua 10th November 2008 19:12

I just found an detailed howto (you have to scroll down a little bit) for setup mailman with postfix.

Maybe it can be used to build an mailman package for ISPConfig. I'm not sure if its possible that each client could have their own lists (== for the domains the client controls)

I also saw a table mail_mailman_domain in the ISPConfig database, which isn't used yet, right?

I'll try to get it to work, but its not on the top of my todo list ;)

quentusrex 13th November 2008 22:33

Kalua, I think we should look at DadaMail for the mailing list:

It seems to be able to fit into what we need much easier. Let me know what you think. It's also not limited like mailman is.

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