do i need bind?

[guybrush]

hi,

another question from me:
do i need bind if i´m using an external dns-service?
if the service is using it´s own dns-servers and they point to the ip of my vserver, do i need bind localy?

if i need bind, why?
i don´t really understand that scenario

greetz guybrush

[till]

hi,

another question from me:
do i need bind if i´m using an external dns-service?
if the service is using it´s own dns-servers and they point to the ip of my vserver, do i need bind localy?

No, except you want to install ISPConfig.

if i need bind, why?
i don´t really understand that scenario

You will have to install BIND for ISPConfig because it is a system requirement, but you dont have to start and use your local BIND server.

[guybrush]

i saw that this post got into the wrong forum. certainly i want to install
ispconfig.
i´m using an external dns-service, so the dependency was not clear to me.
i just disable bind localy and everything is fine?

another technical question:
how does ispconfig recognises to which web he should jump?
if there are many webs on one server with 1 ip?

[falko]

i saw that this post got into the wrong forum. certainly i want to install
ispconfig.
i´m using an external dns-service, so the dependency was not clear to me.
i just disable bind localy and everything is fine?
Yes.

another technical question:
how does ispconfig recognises to which web he should jump?
if there are many webs on one server with 1 ip?
ISPConfig doesn't have to recognize it - your Apache has to. Apache uses name based vhosts, i.e. it recognizes the URL you request and then knows which web to serve.

[guybrush]

that means, if i type in testdomain.tld, and the dns points to 213.213.213.213,
then apache sees that i typed in testdomain.tld? how or where does apache sees this?

that means again, for each web ispconfig creates a virtual host for each user, and then the to the user assigned domains point to this vhost? where is this info stored exactly?

[falko]

that means, if i type in testdomain.tld, and the dns points to 213.213.213.213,
then apache sees that i typed in testdomain.tld? how or where does apache sees this?
Yes.

that means again, for each web ispconfig creates a virtual host for each user, and then the to the user assigned domains point to this vhost? where is this info stored exactly?
There must be DNS records for each domain and subdomain so that the domains/subdomains resolve to the correct IP addresses.

[guybrush]

There must be DNS records for each domain and subdomain so that the domains/subdomains resolve to the correct IP addresses.

when i understand you right, as long as the machine ispconfig is running on can resolve the domainname (using any dns-server, NOT the local one, which i disabled), everything works like a charme?

and how does apache recognises which domainname i typed in?


tschuldigung fürs lange lästig nachfragen ;-)

[falko]

and how does apache recognises which domainname i typed in?

The browser submits it to the Apache server.

[tai`daishar]

I installed Fedora Core 5 after your "perfect build" guide. But as I was going to use external DNS servers, I skipped the bind part of the installation.

The problem I have with ISPConfig is, when I try to connect to the site i only get Apaches "standard" everything is working site. Even if I uploaded another index.html to the ispconfig server.

Is this related to me skipping the BIND installation?
How can I fix it?

[till]

The problem I have with ISPConfig is, when I try to connect to the site i only get Apaches "standard" everything is working site. Even if I uploaded another index.html to the ispconfig server.

Are you in a NAT enviroment behind a router? If yes, did you use your internal or extrnal IP address for the webspace?

Is this related to me skipping the BIND installation?

I dont think so.

[tai`daishar]

No iam on an external ip. I first installed with an internal IP, later i changed it to the external one and reinstalled ISPConfig.

[till]

Ok, please post the content of the file:

/etc/apache2/vhosts/Vhost_ispconfig.conf

[tai`daishar]

Sorry for the delay but I could not find /etc/apache2/vhosts/Vhost_ispconfig.conf, do you mean my /etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhost_ispconfig.conf:

here it is:

###################################
#
# ISPConfig vHost Configuration File
# Version 1.0
#
###################################
#
NameVirtualHost 217.13.4.149:80
<VirtualHost 217.13.4.149:80>
ServerName localhost
ServerAdmin root@localhost
DocumentRoot /var/www/sharedip
</VirtualHost>
#
#
######################################
# Vhost: www.friundervisningen.no:80
######################################
#
#
<VirtualHost 217.13.4.149:80>
ServerName www.friundervisningen.no:80
ServerAdmin webmaster@friundervisningen.no
DocumentRoot /home/www/web5/web
ServerAlias friundervisningen.no
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.php index.php5 index.php4 index.php3 index.shtml index.cgi index.pl index.jsp Default.htm default.htm
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/www/web5/cgi-bin/
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
AddHandler cgi-script .pl
ErrorLog /home/www/web5/log/error.log
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .php4 .php5
<Files *.php>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php3>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php4>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php5>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
php_admin_flag safe_mode Off
AddType text/html .shtml
AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml
Alias /error/ "/home/www/web5/web/error/"
ErrorDocument 400 /error/invalidSyntax.html
ErrorDocument 401 /error/authorizationRequired.html
ErrorDocument 403 /error/forbidden.html
ErrorDocument 404 /error/fileNotFound.html
ErrorDocument 405 /error/methodNotAllowed.html
ErrorDocument 500 /error/internalServerError.html
ErrorDocument 503 /error/overloaded.html
AliasMatch ^/~([^/]+)(/(.*))? /home/www/web5/user/$1/web/$3
AliasMatch ^/users/([^/]+)(/(.*))? /home/www/web5/user/$1/web/$3
</VirtualHost>
#
#
#
######################################
# Vhost: www.jcon.net:80
######################################
#
#
<VirtualHost 217.13.4.149:80>
ServerName www.jcon.net:80
ServerAdmin webmaster@jcon.net
DocumentRoot /home/www/web6/web
ServerAlias jcon.net
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.php index.php5 index.php4 index.php3 index.shtml index.cgi index.pl index.jsp Default.htm default.htm
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/www/web6/cgi-bin/
AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
AddHandler cgi-script .pl
ErrorLog /home/www/web6/log/error.log
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .php4 .php5
<Files *.php>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php3>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php4>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
<Files *.php5>
SetOutputFilter PHP
SetInputFilter PHP
</Files>
php_admin_flag safe_mode Off
AddType text/html .shtml
AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml
Alias /error/ "/home/www/web6/web/error/"
ErrorDocument 400 /error/invalidSyntax.html
ErrorDocument 401 /error/authorizationRequired.html
ErrorDocument 403 /error/forbidden.html
ErrorDocument 404 /error/fileNotFound.html
ErrorDocument 405 /error/methodNotAllowed.html
ErrorDocument 500 /error/internalServerError.html
ErrorDocument 503 /error/overloaded.html
AliasMatch ^/~([^/]+)(/(.*))? /home/www/web6/user/$1/web/$3
AliasMatch ^/users/([^/]+)(/(.*))? /home/www/web6/user/$1/web/$3
</VirtualHost>
#
#
#

[falko]

/etc/httpd/conf/vhosts/Vhost_ispconfig.conf looks ok. Is it included in your main Apache configuration?

[tai`daishar]

Yes, it is... Iam really stuck with this problem. Any other suggestions i could try?

The problem is still that the domain www.friundervisningen.no goes to apaches /var/www/ folder an not tho the /home/www/web5 as it should..

If i put an index.html in to the /var/www/ folder it works...

[tai`daishar]

SORRY guys! I had put the wrong IP adress in ISPConfig:rolleyes: iam so stupid...

So now everything is working fine.

One last question(I hope): now when I make a new site(which was earlier deleted) it doesnt seem to point to the right directory...

how do I get ISPConfig to change to the new directories it is making?

[falko]

One last question(I hope): now when I make a new site(which was earlier deleted) it doesnt seem to point to the right directory...Did you delete the old site from the recycle bin?

how do I get ISPConfig to change to the new directories it is making?What's the output of ls -l /home/www, and to which site are you referring?

[tai`daishar]

Did you delete the old site from the recycle bin?

What's the output of ls -l /home/www, and to which site are you referring?


I deleted all the old sites and the directories it created in /home/www and did a reboot. now everything is working as it should! :)

Thanks again for the help!