I am A newbie I need Help^__^

[Unknown_X]

Hello ppl

I am A newibe 2 server things :o so I need 2 know all about Having a web server so anyone can Help me?

and my server's Info is:
2.8 GHz
512 RAm

hmmmmm

if You Need any Extra info I will tell Ya

I want 2 know what I need in( hardware and software)

and about my OS it is fedora Core 4
BTW I dont now how 2 Config fedora( I used to use Windows XP OS ) coz I am A fedora Newbie as well and I am using the grahical interface for this OS

I need help so I will wait for Your Replay....

Bye bye
:D

[Ovidiu]

ok, you are a newbie - so what ? ;-)
If you need advice please tell us what you want to use the server for?
Will it be a server on the internet, a dedicated one or a virtual one? Or do you just want to experiment with a server at home, using DSL maybe?

If you give us more info and ask some questions we might help you with some advice.

[falko]

Did you have a look at this tutorial? http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4

Sooner or later you'll have to work with the command line so you better start now. I recommend that you use PuTTY ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html ) as SSH client for your FC4 system on your Windows desktop.

[Unknown_X]

thank You Tenaka and I want the server 2 be a virtual web hosting we well as using it for my website and using a DSL in my home. so can I use it @ home and what do I need other than the server?
Dear falko
and thanks for the tutorial ^__^
But what is SSh client?
sorry guys but I told You I am A newbie...NO...Extreme Newbiehttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif

bye bye ^__^

[Unknown_X]

thank You Tenaka and I want the server 2 be a virtual web hosting we well as using it for my website and using a DSL in my home. so can I use it @ home and what do I need other than the server?
Dear falko
and thanks for the tutorial ^__^
But what is SSh client?
sorry guys but I told You I am A newbie...NO...Extreme Newbiehttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif

bye bye ^__^

[Ovidiu]

If I udnerstood this right you want to do this:

setup a PC at home with linux and connect it to the itnernet with dsl. this machine will serve your website to the net and will also host some other sites?

If you want to stick to fedora I suggest you read through falkos how-to (the link he gave you) and try and set it up on your pc. You WILL get errors and not everything will run, thats usual for a newbie. I guess everybody here had to setu his server up severall times, always learning from past mistakes.
So go ahead and follow the guide. THEN install ispconfig (see instructions on the main website).
AND please play around with it, test it, make sure you know what you are doing before connecting it to the net...

[Unknown_X]

Should I use the graphical Fedora or the text mode?

[Ovidiu]

well I guess its better to use text mode because the graphical mode/tools is/are not much more than a frontend to the command line and you should know what clicking a button does => use text mode. Most how-to's are explaining on the command line, you will find things like: do a ps aux and post the output here, as an example - so what are you going to do if you only know graphical mode? start a taskmanager tool and post a screenshot?

My advice is forget about graphics, thats ok if you are using the pc as a workstation but for a server you need to know whats under the hood.

[falko]

You WILL get errors and not everything will run, thats usual for a newbie. Only if you don't follow the tutorial exactly. :D


Should I use the graphical Fedora or the text mode?Text mode!

But what is SSh client?It allows you to connect to your server from another system (e.g. Windows desktop). You login with your username (e.g. root) and password, and then you have your server's shell on your desktop. It's like telnet, but secure!

[Unknown_X]

It allows you to connect to your server from another system (e.g. Windows desktop). You login with your username (e.g. root) and password, and then you have your server's shell on your desktop. It's like telnet, but secure!
aha!
so that means I can use my fedora server from my windows XP?
thats Kool!
and I want 2 use easy 2 admin a web server like Cpanel or plesk can I use them or not?
and (Sorry for that much Of Questionshttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif)
how can I use them in text mode?
and whaich one is better using cpanel,Plesk or the normal text codes, because I found the text mode kinda hard for me?

[falko]

aha!
so that means I can use my fedora server from my windows XP?
thats Kool!
and I want 2 use easy 2 admin a web server like Cpanel or plesk can I use them or not?
and (Sorry for that much Of Questionshttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif)
how can I use them in text mode?
and whaich one is better using cpanel,Plesk or the normal text codes, because I found the text mode kinda hard for me?
I don't know cpanel and Plesk very well, but why don't you use ISPConfig ( http://www.ispconfig.org/ )? It's free, has a lot of features (probably more than you'll need :) ), and you'll get the best support for it here on the forum (I'm one of the developers...:D ).

[Ovidiu]

you were talking about "using" your server from win xp, it not really like using its more like having control, giving commands to your server by using putty as ssh client.
The graphical interfaces like cpanel, plesk or ispconfig can help you control your server via a browser interface from wherever you want but you are limited. but using ssh you have full control over your server (thats called a shell access if you rent a serevr) but you must know your commandline pretty well.

[Unknown_X]

you must know your commandline pretty well.
But I dont know even one command?
so plz do You have any documents or manuals that I can Read and learn from it?
BTW...
...;;;***Your are the best guys thanks For supporting me***;;;...
I am ^___^ Happy

[falko]

so plz do You have any documents or manuals that I can Read and learn from it?

http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4

You can copy the commands from that tutorial and paste them into your PuTTY window! :)

[Ovidiu]

one more tip to learn what you are doing, besides copy and paste is this:

after you copy and paste one command, you could use your systems documentation to learn more about the command you just issued like this:

on your putty client type this: man "command" and substitute command by the command you want to learn about.

[Unknown_X]

thanks guys Your are thebest and If I have any questions I will post the in this thread

[badben]

I used linux for the first time about a month ago with the same idea as you. Before I had only used windows.

My advice ( from experience and many hours of trial and error ) is to follow the tutorials very carefully and you will learn more than you would have thought about linux.

The ISPConfig package is very good and as falko said, it's free as opposed to being very expensive for the cpanel and plesk packages you mentioned. I know, cos thats what I was going to do before I found ISPConfig.

[Unknown_X]

I used linux for the first time about a month ago with the same idea as you. Before I had only used windows.

My advice ( from experience and many hours of trial and error ) is to follow the tutorials very carefully and you will learn more than you would have thought about linux.

The ISPConfig package is very good and as falko said, it's free as opposed to being very expensive for the cpanel and plesk packages you mentioned. I know, cos thats what I was going to do before I found ISPConfig.
Good advise my friend thankx I really respect This and thankx to falco for the ISPconfig;)

[hairydog2]

The "Perfect Setup" instructions are designed to get the system ready to install ISPConfig on top, not as an end in themselves. ISPConfig is a server management tool with a graphical front end like Cpanel or Plesk (but it is free).

If you are doing this just to run one or two web servers, you really don't need ISPConfig (or Cpanel or Plesk) but you would need to get to know a little about how to set things up. However, I found ISPConfig pretty helpful to a beginner, and it's probalby a good idea to install it in your situation.

You won't get good performance whatever you do, because generally the uplink speed of ADSL is slow, and the cost of SDSL tends to be too high for most people. But it will work.

[edge]

Unknown_X,

If you are new to this stuff (like I was about 2 months ago) I suggest you have a look at the home version of ClarkConnect (http://www.clarkconnect.com/) You will have it up and running within no time!

[hairydog2]

I can't see any advantage in using the paid-for Clark Connect over the free SME Server from http://www.contribs.org

[Unknown_X]

errrrrrr!!!!
I am Confused I dont Know where 2 start???

I need some one who Explains what do I need 2 have a webserver...

I mean from hardware to software and what is better as well as Do I need a router?what are the router uses?what is the best linux ver. should I use.....Fedora Core, Suse or Red Hat?, what are the best ways 2 manage it (Webserver) plus Should I need a reg.ed Domain name in order to start?, Can I regester My Own Domain name from my server? lots lots Of Questions in my mind but these were Part 1?


I am Really REALLY sorry about that Much Of Questions but as I told You that I am an XTREME Newbie :shy:

Sorry Again :shy:

[Unknown_X]

One More thing :shy:
What is SME Server?
what is these sites for?
http://www.contribs.org
http://www.clarkconnect.com/

[edge]

I can't see any advantage in using the paid-for Clark Connect over the free SME Server from http://www.contribs.org

For him the free home edition will do I think..

One More thing :shy:
What is SME Server?
what is these sites for?
http://www.contribs.org
http://www.clarkconnect.com/

http://www.clarkconnect.com/ is like Fedora an OS (Operating System)
Clarkconnect is a pre-made package with all the stuff you need to host your own websites (and more if needed).
Download the home version > burn on CD > Put CD in PC > restart PC > Select the options you want > Set IP.
After installing (will take about 5 minutes) you need to reboot the PC (it will tell you).. Done..

After the reboot you will end up in a "kind of looking DOS box" (It does not have a shell)

The way you can now setup things is by using your web browser. (Go to https://ip_of_server:81)).
You can also access it with a program named putty (SSH), or with a 'terminal' when you have direct access to the server, but
I suggest using the web browser to setup things (for now) as not much can go wrong thisway.

It will also run on about any 'old' system/pc (like many other linux version)

[falko]

I need some one who Explains what do I need 2 have a webserver...
I recommend that follow one of the "Perfect Setup" guides from HowtoForge, e.g. the one for Fedora 4 or Debian Sarge.

Do I need a router?
If your server is in a data center then you don't need a router. That would be the best, because that's the purpose for which ISPConfig was developed: servers with a "real" internet connection.

what are the router uses?
You need a router if your server is in some kind of local network. The router routes traffic from within the local network to the internet and vice versa. Normally, if you have a DSL line from your ISP or something like that, your ISP should have provided you a router.

what is the best linux ver. should I use.....Fedora Core, Suse or Red Hat?,
I recommend Debian Sarge. Have a look at this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge

what are the best ways 2 manage it (Webserver)
You can use ISPConfig for it. It gives you a web interface so you don't have to mess around with the shell (sonner or later, you should feel comfortable on the shell though).

plus Should I need a reg.ed Domain name in order to start?,
I always recommend to have a domain that you use for technical purposes only, e.g. for host names, name servers, etc., i.e. that isn't used for a web site or email addresses etc. For example, I'm using the domain hostmu.com, and all my servers are using a sub-domain of hostmu.com as server name, and my name servers are also sub-domains of hostmu.com (ns1 - ns6.hostmu.com). hostmu.com is not used for a web site.

[hairydog2]

For him the free home edition will do I think..

But it seems to be less powerful than SME server, and no easier to set up.
I simply can't see any advantage in Clark Connect over SME Server. I was hoping you would be able to tell me how it is better.

[Unknown_X]

hostmu.com is not used for a web site.
so falko I Want to use the server for my website so can I give the name
www.hostmu.comj as my site Domain?
and thanks for Your Great help
I am Really thankful ^______^
and mysite will have alot of media with more than 50-100 megabyte each?

[edge]

But it seems to be less powerful than SME server, and no easier to set up.
I simply can't see any advantage in Clark Connect over SME Server. I was hoping you would be able to tell me how it is better.

All I can say is that I never used any linux OS, and that I started with Clark Connect, and had it up and running in 30 minutes (web sites also)

I have never used SME Server, so I can not comment on it..
If you think SME Server is better for him to start with, than so be it..

[falko]

so falko I Want to use the server for my website so can I give the name
www.hostmu.comj as my site Domain?

You should better use your own domain...

[Destroyer]

I found when people make the conversion to Fedora or any other Linux / Unix based sytems they find the transition easier if they use graphical based administration tools such as:

VNCSERVER & CLIENT (VNC comes with Fedora 3-5 download windows client)
WEBMIN download here http://www.webmin.com/download.html
PUTTY for windows www.putty.nl/download.html

If you use the graphical install for Fedora when following the how to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4

after installing Fedora install Putty on your windows machine and Webmin and vncserver on Fedora, you will find help for both of these in these forums or on Google.

Then if any text based commands are given as help you can either log on locally to Fedora and use the terminal or Putty for direct comunication from the windows machine.

Hope this advice helps and stick with it because open source rocks! :D

Destroyer
http://www.lacomputers.com.au

[Unknown_X]

I found when people make the conversion to Fedora or any other Linux / Unix based sytems they find the transition easier if they use graphical based administration tools such as:

VNCSERVER & CLIENT (VNC comes with Fedora 3-5 download windows client)
WEBMIN download here http://www.webmin.com/download.html
PUTTY for windows www.putty.nl/download.html

If you use the graphical install for Fedora when following the how to http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4

after installing Fedora install Putty on your windows machine and Webmin and vncserver on Fedora, you will find help for both of these in these forums or on Google.

Then if any text based commands are given as help you can either log on locally to Fedora and use the terminal or Putty for direct comunication from the windows machine.

Hope this advice helps and stick with it because open source rocks! :D

Destroyer
http://www.lacomputers.com.au
Thank You Man That Helps me alot ^__^